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  3. "...the AI tool can handle patients seeking care for colds, nausea, rashes, sprains, and other common urgent care requests, as well as mild to moderate mental health concerns and issues related to chronic diseases.

"...the AI tool can handle patients seeking care for colds, nausea, rashes, sprains, and other common urgent care requests, as well as mild to moderate mental health concerns and issues related to chronic diseases.

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  • Bich Nguyen :verified:B This user is from outside of this forum
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    "...the AI tool can handle patients seeking care for colds, nausea, rashes, sprains, and other common urgent care requests, as well as mild to moderate mental health concerns and issues related to chronic diseases. After the patient types in a description of the symptoms or problem, the AI tool sends a doctor a suggested diagnosis and treatment plan."

    https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/ai-primary-care-doctors-shortages-massachusetts-mass-general-brigham/

    #healthcare #AI #healthIT #physicians #PrimaryCare #FamilyMedicine #InternalMedicine

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      "...the AI tool can handle patients seeking care for colds, nausea, rashes, sprains, and other common urgent care requests, as well as mild to moderate mental health concerns and issues related to chronic diseases. After the patient types in a description of the symptoms or problem, the AI tool sends a doctor a suggested diagnosis and treatment plan."

      https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/ai-primary-care-doctors-shortages-massachusetts-mass-general-brigham/

      #healthcare #AI #healthIT #physicians #PrimaryCare #FamilyMedicine #InternalMedicine

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      @bicmay I see 5 problems.

      1st: Many of these things don't need much interventions. In places with PSL [paid sick leave] the doctors already only recommend some OTC meds if need be to alleviate symptoms, fill out/sign/rubberstamp a sick notice and take in the next patient, cuz they got "bigger fish to fry".

      2nd: This role is already filled by a receptionist in most cases as people tell why they're coming in, so they already pre-sort and categorize patients in every place ranging from a single GP office to a giant clinic with ER adjacent to it, cuz taking a file (regardless if physical ir digital) and adding a (literal or figurative) post-it to it delivering a TL;DR of "Why is this person here?" is easy.

      3rd: It doesn't add much to it, except entrenching biases from existing datasets and potentially hinder proper treatment.

      4th: "#AI" is not a replacement for a medical degree or actual diagnostics. Just like my basic firefighter training is not a sufficient replacement for any paramedic or actual ER surgeon training: I know how to do my best ob preventibg someone to die in my arms by obvious causes, but that doesn't replace X-ray, MRT and potential surgeries.

      5th: Even if we ignore all these things, it's not as if patients ain't going to communicate this (either directly or indirectly by virtue if being unconcious). 99,999% of all cases are so common and well known that the course of action is pretty much exercised and documented for over a quarter century at the meast...

      Cuz let's face it: Nothing really changed treating a cold in the last 25+ years.

      • Or at least not so much that it's a new way at all ...
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        @bicmay I see 5 problems.

        1st: Many of these things don't need much interventions. In places with PSL [paid sick leave] the doctors already only recommend some OTC meds if need be to alleviate symptoms, fill out/sign/rubberstamp a sick notice and take in the next patient, cuz they got "bigger fish to fry".

        2nd: This role is already filled by a receptionist in most cases as people tell why they're coming in, so they already pre-sort and categorize patients in every place ranging from a single GP office to a giant clinic with ER adjacent to it, cuz taking a file (regardless if physical ir digital) and adding a (literal or figurative) post-it to it delivering a TL;DR of "Why is this person here?" is easy.

        3rd: It doesn't add much to it, except entrenching biases from existing datasets and potentially hinder proper treatment.

        4th: "#AI" is not a replacement for a medical degree or actual diagnostics. Just like my basic firefighter training is not a sufficient replacement for any paramedic or actual ER surgeon training: I know how to do my best ob preventibg someone to die in my arms by obvious causes, but that doesn't replace X-ray, MRT and potential surgeries.

        5th: Even if we ignore all these things, it's not as if patients ain't going to communicate this (either directly or indirectly by virtue if being unconcious). 99,999% of all cases are so common and well known that the course of action is pretty much exercised and documented for over a quarter century at the meast...

        Cuz let's face it: Nothing really changed treating a cold in the last 25+ years.

        • Or at least not so much that it's a new way at all ...
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        @kkarhan

        I think moving from fee-for-service and toward a value-based payment system and decreasing panel sizes would reduce the burden on PCPs. They could probably open up more availability to see urgent visits. As a primary care physician, I want to be able to see patients I know to provide comprehensive care.

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