Teaching seems like a frustrating job
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If you need a calming banana to not punch people not mistreating you in the face you are a garbage person
not mistreating you
You think this kid chose to be in school? It's violent coercion from the start.
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It's a child, calm down lol
This is how children are treated. They're completely controlled, disempowered, and then hated. It's completely normalized.
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Nah, even as a child that's unacceptable. My kid is only 5 and I don't let them hit people, and punish them when they do. The response from the parent shows the apple fell straight down
Edit: if you think this is advocating violence against children, go touch grass or read a single book on parenting ffs. Natural/logical consequences make good punishments for misbehavior, and have gone a long way to helping my kid not act out (and are nonviolent, since that has to be spelled out)
only 5... punish them
Sounds real normal and healthy. jfc. Who upvotes this trash?
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Punishing is much more than violence against children, and hitting them is one of the worst ways to punish for many reasons.
But it'll get you upvotes on Lemmy apparently.
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Regardless of the labelling, punching someone in the face is absolutely not "acting like a child", it's acting like a garbage person. That shit should not be tolerated or excused away to complain about labelling.
And honestly, excusing away a kid battering their teacher as "acting like a child" is pretty goddamned unacceptable too.
What about the state locking kids in a room all day? Tolerated or no?
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My little brother threw a chair at his preschool teacher. This is absolutely shit kids do, that they need to be taught is unacceptable. You don't teach kids to be better by writing them off as garbage humans, because they're still learning.
If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you're a shitty parent.
If you call your five year old garbage
It's not enough to call them names. You gotta punish them! Didn't you see the other comments? \s
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Garbage adults start as garbage children
Yeah that's what zios and nazis say about murdering children.
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I feel like the teacher should be someone who not only possesses great knowledge and the capacity to guide, but also the ability to solo the entire classroom in a fight to make them submit and listen the fuck up.
Boot to the head!
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It's almost like kids don't like being physically coerced into a prison for their whole day.
This specific child was being neglected at home. He clearly felt that school was the only place he could exert control without being hit for it.
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People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.
Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.
It's kind of amazing how nobody suspects the teacher or the school when they're the most obvious culprits in ruining the lives of children.
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In many ways, bad parenting is often why people go to therapy in the first place, haha. That said, I'm referring to something unrelated to parenting, as there are an assortment of disorders that have little to do with parenting.
Also, discipline is tricky; parents have to use more than punishment in their toolbox, like praise for good work, modeling kindness, etc., and avoid modeling physical punishment since that tends to be the main reason a kid hit other kids... although I doubt the banana parents hit their kids.
Screening can help identify the cause of problematic behavior. In the US, that legally is required by the schools in federal law (i.e. IDEA), but obviously enforcing said law isn't happening, even in better administrations.
Screening can help identify the cause of problematic behavior.
It's the school. There's no mystery here.
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But it'll get you upvotes on Lemmy apparently.
Show us on the thread where anyone advocated for hitting the kid? All I see is people assuming parents are going to hit the kid.
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only 5... punish them
Sounds real normal and healthy. jfc. Who upvotes this trash?
People who think you should teach kids not to hit people. And people who have enough braincells to rub together to understand that punishment and violence against children aren't the same thing.
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Or maybe you talk to the kid and take away a privilege they have temporarily that is (at least close to) a natural consequence of behavior? But then again, I'm just a parent of a relatively well adjusted kid who isn't violent and talks to me about their problems, so what the fuck do I know?
Man, the amount of people who default "punishment" to "violence against kids" is fucking stupid.
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The more serious students will be armed. You're better off fleeing out a window.
Teacher should just learn to fight against armed opponents
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What about the state locking kids in a room all day? Tolerated or no?
Sure, why not. Because all punishment is the job of the state, and no parent has the capability to punish their kid without violence, clearly.
/S for those who can't realize punishment and violence are not synonymous
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Dear Parent,
In an effort to break the routine of unacceptable parenting, I would like to demonstrate what you can do with banans. First, get a large bunch of preferrably green bananas. Remove two of these bananas from the bunch. Take one banana, and insert the stem rigorously into your right ear canal. Repeat with the other banana in your left ear canal. Do not remove the banana until they begin to wither.
And thats it!
The effort to reduce your child's violent outbursts remains the same, but at least you will be able to share your Superpower of Narrow Intelligence with the public! Everyone will unequivocally know that you are a moron.
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My little brother threw a chair at his preschool teacher. This is absolutely shit kids do, that they need to be taught is unacceptable. You don't teach kids to be better by writing them off as garbage humans, because they're still learning.
If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you're a shitty parent.
I'm always amazed at how little reading comprehension people have, or how they end up responding to things in their own head.
1 - your example of your little brother acting like an asshole doesn't mean it's "shit that kids do". This is "boys will be boys" shit, and that's not acceptable. This is like saying your little brother throws rocks at moving cars or at animals and it's just "shit kids do". Misbehaving kids do it, and need to be taught better, but it is not normal kid behavior.
2 - no one is saying they're talking to the kid like that
3 - part of teaching kids to be better people is showing them there are natural consequences for their actions, which guess what? That's a form of punishment, and it isn't violence.
If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you're a shitty parent.
I ask my kid what's wrong and work with them to find a solution, and implement natural/logical (and because crayons are needed, non violent) consequences for their misbehavior. I may use choice descriptors for their behavior when they are not in the house, but I would never speak to my kid that way.
It baffles me how many people in this thread don't have a concept of natural/logical consequences as punishment, and it really fucking shows in the responses. But I guess when you're raised with violence and can't be bothered to look into alternatives, it's easy to assume and drag people on the Internet
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Surely the designer put it up as a prank.
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I'm always amazed at how little reading comprehension people have, or how they end up responding to things in their own head.
1 - your example of your little brother acting like an asshole doesn't mean it's "shit that kids do". This is "boys will be boys" shit, and that's not acceptable. This is like saying your little brother throws rocks at moving cars or at animals and it's just "shit kids do". Misbehaving kids do it, and need to be taught better, but it is not normal kid behavior.
2 - no one is saying they're talking to the kid like that
3 - part of teaching kids to be better people is showing them there are natural consequences for their actions, which guess what? That's a form of punishment, and it isn't violence.
If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you're a shitty parent.
I ask my kid what's wrong and work with them to find a solution, and implement natural/logical (and because crayons are needed, non violent) consequences for their misbehavior. I may use choice descriptors for their behavior when they are not in the house, but I would never speak to my kid that way.
It baffles me how many people in this thread don't have a concept of natural/logical consequences as punishment, and it really fucking shows in the responses. But I guess when you're raised with violence and can't be bothered to look into alternatives, it's easy to assume and drag people on the Internet
It's amazing that you complain about people not reading and responding to stuff in their head, then you turn around it do it yourself.
1: I quite clearly stated that this was inappropriate behavior that needs to be educated away. I don't know how you think my example is condoning the action. Children need to be taught to keep their hands to themselves, this is a normal part of child development. It is normal for children to have Big Emotions and not know how to use their words yet. Normal doesn't mean it shouldn't be addressed, it just means that every child has to have it addressed.
2: Have you not read the rest of the thread? Starting with the post calling the child a garbage person?
3: I never said anything to the contrary?
but I would never speak to my kid that way.
Then why are you defending it so hard?
