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    m3t00🌎🇺🇦
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    best way to learn a subject. i couldn't do it more than a few years. imagine gradeschool math for 20 years with screaming kids. no thanks

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    • A andros_rex@lemmy.world

      What gets me is the complete lack of respect, while also having standards that expect you to be a saint.

      Teaching title 1, after the district reorganized and combined schools with rival gangs - roster changing every day, buses showing up hours late, not being allowed to kick disruptive students out of the classroom, and having to withstand verbal abuse…

      They want you to be Jesus. Spend your own money on supplies, focus on “building a relationship” with the student who screamed “fucking f-ggot” in front of the principal at you…

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      AxExRx
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      Friend was offered $80k to head up a new middle school Spanish esl dept, witb 2 other teachers. A month before school was to start, they set a date to finalize the contract. They'd never even interviewed for the 2 other teachers. They wanted her to see all 350+ kids 2x a week. And the salary had dropped to $21.6K, which is the state minimum wage of 15$ for 180 8hr days. This is in a super high COL town- the grocery store starts at $27 an hour, and $2k a month rent is a steal.

      She laughed at them an walked. Had a job for 38 an hour in a construction firm's office in 2 days (where Spanish fluency is a marketable skill dental a high esl labor force)

      The schools response was the admin in charge of her hiring trying to throw her under the bus. She wrote an OP ED to the paper calling my friend out by name (which was blacked out by the paper per their agreement- it was so bad the paper reached out and asked her permission to print it- she agreed, with her name redacted and a promise theyd print her rebuttal as op Ed the following week) they tried to blame her for backing out last minute leaving them in the lurch, and claiming it was her unwillingness to teach that was to blame for their lack of a proper esl dept despite almost 1/3 of the students being esl.

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      • Q queenmidna@lemmy.ca

        And one more for Jenny and the whimp!

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        notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world
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        Boot to the head!

        Boot to the head!

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          Banana of calming, plus 10 to calmness.

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            Friend was offered $80k to head up a new middle school Spanish esl dept, witb 2 other teachers. A month before school was to start, they set a date to finalize the contract. They'd never even interviewed for the 2 other teachers. They wanted her to see all 350+ kids 2x a week. And the salary had dropped to $21.6K, which is the state minimum wage of 15$ for 180 8hr days. This is in a super high COL town- the grocery store starts at $27 an hour, and $2k a month rent is a steal.

            She laughed at them an walked. Had a job for 38 an hour in a construction firm's office in 2 days (where Spanish fluency is a marketable skill dental a high esl labor force)

            The schools response was the admin in charge of her hiring trying to throw her under the bus. She wrote an OP ED to the paper calling my friend out by name (which was blacked out by the paper per their agreement- it was so bad the paper reached out and asked her permission to print it- she agreed, with her name redacted and a promise theyd print her rebuttal as op Ed the following week) they tried to blame her for backing out last minute leaving them in the lurch, and claiming it was her unwillingness to teach that was to blame for their lack of a proper esl dept despite almost 1/3 of the students being esl.

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            andros_rex@lemmy.world
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            The bait and switch is such a thing.

            I hated chemistry. My brain wants science that is as much as possible about doing pure math. I don’t want to be memorize exceptions to every little rule and naming conventions that also have exceptions. I wanted to teach physics, I interviewed for physics. I get the job, then I find out I’m teaching chemistry.

            They didn’t care that i wasn’t certified for chemistry, and that I scraped through that certification test (because I’m not going to teach anything I’m not certified to teach and took the test before the school year started) with knowing what a hydrogen bond was, much less anything covered in an organic chemistry class….

            I also had classes that were 2/3 special education, which mandated a coteacher. I met her in 3 weeks in and saw her once a month, because she needed to serve as a substitute teacher. I was not certified in SPED at the time, and the IEPs they gave me were a literal excel spreadsheet with the accommodations ticked off which is beyond illegal.

            The system is so beyond broken. No one seems to give a shit but there are parts of the country which are just failing.

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              DylanMc6 [any, any]
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              "Calming Banana" actually sounds like a great band name. Seriously!

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              • Captain AggravatedC Captain Aggravated

                Graphic designers do this crap all the time. I've got an aviation textbook with three meshed gears on the cover:

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                fedizen@lemmy.world
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                Is there a community for like these "looks/sounds great until you think about it for two seconds" style art/news/media fails? Because I feel like it would be fun time.

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                  korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                  Oh yeah, the parents are almost as feral as the kids these days.

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                  • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

                    Oh yeah, the parents are almost as feral as the kids these days.

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                    secretsoundwave@lemmy.ml
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                    Unless, and hear me out, they beat that child with multiple bananas at home for 6 straight hours. I mean they pelt him non stop with those large, hard, and un-ripe South American bananas that are like 2lbs of concrete. Then they send him to school with one of those things in his backpack to induce trauma to be a better human.

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                      Unless, and hear me out, they beat that child with multiple bananas at home for 6 straight hours. I mean they pelt him non stop with those large, hard, and un-ripe South American bananas that are like 2lbs of concrete. Then they send him to school with one of those things in his backpack to induce trauma to be a better human.

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                      korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                      Ahh, child abuse to ensure compliance. I like it.

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                      • F fedizen@lemmy.world

                        Is there a community for like these "looks/sounds great until you think about it for two seconds" style art/news/media fails? Because I feel like it would be fun time.

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                        Captain Aggravated
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                        Don't know. I suggest threemeshedgears for the title though.

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                        • Captain AggravatedC Captain Aggravated

                          Don't know. I suggest threemeshedgears for the title though.

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                          fedizen@lemmy.world
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                          https://lemmy.world/c/ThreeMeshedGears

                          Welp I made it

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                            The Rising Dragon Fist, AKA “Shooooooryuken!”

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                            • T technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              only 5... punish them

                              Sounds real normal and healthy. jfc. Who upvotes this trash?

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                              michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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                              It IS normal to punish 5 year olds. You don't have to use violence to punish them. 5 years old is enough to understand consequences.

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                              • D david_eight@lemmy.world

                                I never said it was acceptable. Do you call you're children garbage when they misbehave? Does their behavior improve after you tell your child that you think they're garbage? I don't let my children hit anyone either, I just don't call them garbage if they do.

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                                michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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                                Normal people don't break the teachers glasses and punch them in the face. This is already major behavioral problems if your kids are school age and doing this.

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                                • F faythofdragons@slrpnk.net

                                  Yeah, it's unacceptable, but it's also unacceptable to call a child a "garbage person" for acting like a child.

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                                  michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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                                  I wouldn't call a particular kid a garbage person to or around that kid in consideration for the effect it might have on that kid. Between you and me kids who do that are a fucked up mess who probably aren't going to end well.

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                                  • F faythofdragons@slrpnk.net

                                    My little brother threw a chair at his preschool teacher. This is absolutely shit kids do, that they need to be taught is unacceptable. You don't teach kids to be better by writing them off as garbage humans, because they're still learning.

                                    If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you're a shitty parent.

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                                    michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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                                    How old is your little brother and how is his life going? If its going well I'm pretty sure it involved some intensive parenting or counseling.

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                                    • P passerby6497@lemmy.world

                                      I'm always amazed at how little reading comprehension people have, or how they end up responding to things in their own head.

                                      1 - your example of your little brother acting like an asshole doesn't mean it's "shit that kids do". This is "boys will be boys" shit, and that's not acceptable. This is like saying your little brother throws rocks at moving cars or at animals and it's just "shit kids do". Misbehaving kids do it, and need to be taught better, but it is not normal kid behavior.

                                      2 - no one is saying they're talking to the kid like that

                                      3 - part of teaching kids to be better people is showing them there are natural consequences for their actions, which guess what? That's a form of punishment, and it isn't violence.

                                      If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you're a shitty parent.

                                      I ask my kid what's wrong and work with them to find a solution, and implement natural/logical (and because crayons are needed, non violent) consequences for their misbehavior. I may use choice descriptors for their behavior when they are not in the house, but I would never speak to my kid that way.


                                      It baffles me how many people in this thread don't have a concept of natural/logical consequences as punishment, and it really fucking shows in the responses. But I guess when you're raised with violence and can't be bothered to look into alternatives, it's easy to assume and drag people on the Internet

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                                      michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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                                      Who in this thread advocated violence? I advocated selling the kids console to buy the teachers glasses and not getting him another one.

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                                      • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE explodicle@sh.itjust.works

                                        People are just violent apes until you raise them to be civilized.

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                                        michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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                                        5 year old me would never have punched a teacher just trying to teach the class

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                                        • M michaelmrose@lemmy.world

                                          5 year old me would never have punched a teacher just trying to teach the class

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                                          explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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                                          How do we know the child's age? 5yo me was super mad at the world (neurodiverse in 1980s).

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