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  • V village604@adultswim.fan

    "He may be hungry from the bus ride and is acting out from this." That is where low blood sugar is referenced.

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    Accidentally skipped that entire line, reading is hard.

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      chicosuave@lemmy.world
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      Man it's hard to teach non-violence in an age of violence and emotional deregulation.

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      • S SatansMaggotyCumFart

        Bananas piss me off.

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        toynbee@lemmy.world
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        Do you just never know the size of anything?

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          Bananas piss me off.

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          surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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          Have you tried putting them in the other end?

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          • T taiyang@lemmy.world

            People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

            Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.

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            ch00f@lemmy.world
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            People will do anything but seek out a therapist.

            Bananas are a lot more affordable (for now).

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            • B Barbecue Cowboy

              I feel like I'm entering my old man phase, but it feels like we're teaching kids to do everything they can to evade accountability as a rule.

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              surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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              I don't think this is evading responsibility. I think this is a family who can't afford mental health care for their child, and the school system is ill-equipped to handle it.

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              • B Barbecue Cowboy

                I feel like I'm entering my old man phase, but it feels like we're teaching kids to do everything they can to evade accountability as a rule.

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                wonderingwanderer
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                Well yeah, accountability only gets you in trouble. There's no incentive for taking accountability.

                There's no "at least you were honest." Even if someone unintentionally makes a genuine mistake, they'll burn for it if it's ever pinned to them. Just fade into the background and don't attract notice to yourself, cause as soon as you accept blame for one thing, people will use you as a scapegoat for everything else that goes wrong.

                Don't practice self-awareness, it'll only get you punished. Don't feel remorse for your actions, it'll only get you punished. That's the prevailing and all-pervading messaging these days. Do you want to be the sorry sucker to try to reverse that trend?

                The authorities never accept accountability, they just pass the buck to their subordinates. Everyone seems to follow that example, and the buck gets passed down until it can't go any lower and the person at the bottom gets stuck with the hot potato.

                This behavior is continuously reinforced by society. Anyone who expects it to be otherwise learns their lesson real quick. Never admit to being anything less than perfect, or else the consequences may follow you for the rest of your life.

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                • Endymion_MallornE Endymion_Mallorn

                  After all, it's just a banana. How much can it possibly cost? Ten dollars?

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                  justsomeguy@lemmy.world
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                  There's always calmness in the banana stand.

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                    callmeanai@lemmy.world
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                    This would all go through the administration and definitely not tolerated outside a behavioral challenges classroom at my kids school.

                    IMO the only real reason is 80k after 20 years . And I live in an affluent neighborhood in a decently funded state.

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                    • W wonderingwanderer

                      Well yeah, accountability only gets you in trouble. There's no incentive for taking accountability.

                      There's no "at least you were honest." Even if someone unintentionally makes a genuine mistake, they'll burn for it if it's ever pinned to them. Just fade into the background and don't attract notice to yourself, cause as soon as you accept blame for one thing, people will use you as a scapegoat for everything else that goes wrong.

                      Don't practice self-awareness, it'll only get you punished. Don't feel remorse for your actions, it'll only get you punished. That's the prevailing and all-pervading messaging these days. Do you want to be the sorry sucker to try to reverse that trend?

                      The authorities never accept accountability, they just pass the buck to their subordinates. Everyone seems to follow that example, and the buck gets passed down until it can't go any lower and the person at the bottom gets stuck with the hot potato.

                      This behavior is continuously reinforced by society. Anyone who expects it to be otherwise learns their lesson real quick. Never admit to being anything less than perfect, or else the consequences may follow you for the rest of your life.

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                      I used to be a buyer for a manufacturing facility. We'd joke that if something went wrong in production, they would blame the scheduler, the scheduler would blame the buyer, the buyer would blame the supplier, and the supplier would blame our quality team.

                      As long as you're not the last on the list, your job is secure.

                      (Our QA dept had incredibly high turnover.)

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                      • koboldcoterie@pawb.socialK koboldcoterie@pawb.social

                        Well, assuming that's the entire email that was sent, some basic level of empathy might not have been amiss. "So sorry about that, are you okay? We'll pay for the glasses. Obviously this behavior isn't okay; we've discussed it and we're going to try..."

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                        i_has_a_hat@lemmy.world
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                        And just how the fuck do you know that was the ENTIRE email that was sent, rather than just a clip of the relevant part?

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                        • J justsomeguy@lemmy.world

                          There's always calmness in the banana stand.

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                          u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)
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                          Except during that time before Christmas.

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                            Man it's hard to teach non-violence in an age of violence and emotional deregulation.

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                            justsomeguy@lemmy.world
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                            "it is very unfortunate that our Jaeydighn used the calming banana as a weapon but we believe it's important for him to express himself freely and from now on we will peel it in an effort to make the impact softer for everyone involved."

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                            • T taiyang@lemmy.world

                              People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

                              Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.

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                              neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works
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                              If this is the US, ain't nobody can afford a therapist now.

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                                veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world
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                                isn't there vicarious liability for parents of their kids when the runts exhibit continuous violent behavior?

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                                  michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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                                  If you need a calming banana to not punch people not mistreating you in the face you are a garbage person

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                                  • S SatansMaggotyCumFart

                                    In a situation like this is it better to punch the kid or the parents?

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                                    michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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                                    Punch the parent and they might learn how to help their kid learn better.

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                                      lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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                                      Ok great, next time your kid hits me I'm going to hit him back.

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                                      • C ch00f@lemmy.world

                                        People will do anything but seek out a therapist.

                                        Bananas are a lot more affordable (for now).

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                                        lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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                                        Does Venezuela produce bananas?

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                                        • T taiyang@lemmy.world

                                          People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

                                          Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.

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                                          sc00ter@lemmy.zip
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                                          My sister in law and her husband are these people.

                                          She had a kid in high school was non-verbal autistic that she gave up for adoption and ignored. Her first son with her husband was definitely on the spectrum and struggled hard in social situations and in school. School actually pushed for the diagnosis, but there were the "no way. Not my kid." Kind of people. And did nothing.

                                          Their second kid came along and hes further along the spectrum than their other kid. He's 6 and still not potty trained and barely talking. My 4 year old passed him developmentally a year or more ago, which seems to have been the catalyst for them to seek help.

                                          Both kids are doing better no that theyre seeing specialist and on development plans with the school. I just cant believe they waited so long... especially because her brother has a son who is also non verbal autistic, and his parents got him diagnosed before i even knew you could see those traits in children

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