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  • C chicosuave@lemmy.world

    Man it's hard to teach non-violence in an age of violence and emotional deregulation.

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    justsomeguy@lemmy.world
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    "it is very unfortunate that our Jaeydighn used the calming banana as a weapon but we believe it's important for him to express himself freely and from now on we will peel it in an effort to make the impact softer for everyone involved."

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    • T taiyang@lemmy.world

      People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

      Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.

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      neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works
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      If this is the US, ain't nobody can afford a therapist now.

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        veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world
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        isn't there vicarious liability for parents of their kids when the runts exhibit continuous violent behavior?

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          michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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          If you need a calming banana to not punch people not mistreating you in the face you are a garbage person

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          • S SatansMaggotyCumFart

            In a situation like this is it better to punch the kid or the parents?

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            michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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            Punch the parent and they might learn how to help their kid learn better.

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              lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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              Ok great, next time your kid hits me I'm going to hit him back.

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              • C ch00f@lemmy.world

                People will do anything but seek out a therapist.

                Bananas are a lot more affordable (for now).

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                lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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                Does Venezuela produce bananas?

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                • T taiyang@lemmy.world

                  People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

                  Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.

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                  sc00ter@lemmy.zip
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                  My sister in law and her husband are these people.

                  She had a kid in high school was non-verbal autistic that she gave up for adoption and ignored. Her first son with her husband was definitely on the spectrum and struggled hard in social situations and in school. School actually pushed for the diagnosis, but there were the "no way. Not my kid." Kind of people. And did nothing.

                  Their second kid came along and hes further along the spectrum than their other kid. He's 6 and still not potty trained and barely talking. My 4 year old passed him developmentally a year or more ago, which seems to have been the catalyst for them to seek help.

                  Both kids are doing better no that theyre seeing specialist and on development plans with the school. I just cant believe they waited so long... especially because her brother has a son who is also non verbal autistic, and his parents got him diagnosed before i even knew you could see those traits in children

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                  • V village604@adultswim.fan

                    I don't really see the issue here. Kid could be acting out due to low blood sugar. It's certainly a reasonable place to start.

                    Did the teacher expect the parents to say, "Sorry about that, we just bought new jumper cables to beat him with so it won't be a problem anymore."

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                    michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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                    Functional people don't punch their teacher in the face because they don't have enough to eat. He may have had low blood sugar AND a behavioral or mental issue that needs to be addressed.

                    At minimum I would expect a letter from the kid as to what they did was wrong and an apology from both parents and kid. I would expect an offer to pay for the glasses. I would expect the kid to be punished severely. A good example would be selling the kids ps5 to pay for the glasses and not getting him another console this year and making him spend his free time doing unpleasant chores for a month with no outings or rewards of any kind.

                    This is both non-violent, moral, memorable, directly exemplifies the direct connection between wrongdoing and restitution. It doesn't assign blame to a condition as if being hungry forced him to punch his teacher in the face.

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                    • T taiyang@lemmy.world

                      People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

                      Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.

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                      pjwestin@lemmy.world
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                      I mean, that depends on the age. If that kid is 7 or older, yeah, you should probably look into therapy to figure out where that behavior is coming from. 5 or 6, well, kids are still developing emotional regulation at that point. I'm not saying the reaction should be, "OK, we packed a banana," but probably something more like, "Oh no, I'm so sorry, we're going to have a talk about how it's never OK to hit, have you witnessed this kind of behavior before?" then offer to pay for the glasses. (Also, packing a banana isn't a bad idea, as well as making sure he's getting enough sleep. 9 times out of 10, when young kid gets disregulated, they're over-tired or hungry).

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                      • T taiyang@lemmy.world

                        People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

                        Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.

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                        I work at a school and I received training that explicitly told us zero tolerance does not work, made me do a double take. So in at least the northern states things are changing for the better.

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                        • L lightnsfw@reddthat.com

                          Ok great, next time your kid hits me I'm going to hit him back.

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                          bonsoir@lemmy.ca
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                          You're an adult. Just bring your own calming banana. Duh!

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                          • M michaelmrose@lemmy.world

                            If you need a calming banana to not punch people not mistreating you in the face you are a garbage person

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                            david_eight@lemmy.world
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                            It's a child, calm down lol

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                            • B bonsoir@lemmy.ca

                              You're an adult. Just bring your own calming banana. Duh!

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                              lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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                              Unfortunately I don't possess any banana related super powers.

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                              • D david_eight@lemmy.world

                                It's a child, calm down lol

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                                psythik@lemmy.world
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                                This "child" could be 7 or 17, which makes a huge difference regarding the appropriateness of their response. We need more context.

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                                  Assuming this is anything above pre-k, I'd be hoping that the parents would respond with "Sorry we've spoken with him about this unacceptable behavior / we're connecting with a children's counselor to address anger issues / etc."

                                  If it's at the point that I'm getting punched in the face at work, I might also be annoyed at their response being

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                                  dondelelcaro@lemmy.world
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                                  And if this was a teacher with a real incident in a public school, you'd expect their response to involve a parent/teacher conference with administration, possibly a behavioral intervention plan or other outcomes. Email isn't enough.

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                                  • B bonsoir@lemmy.ca

                                    You're an adult. Just bring your own calming banana. Duh!

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                                    hits the kid with the banana

                                    "Calm the fuck down!"

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                                      bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
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                                      Dude school kids were awful when I was one and couldn't understand why they couldn't think logically. I cant imagine how bad it is now after decades of brainrot and phones in schools. I would NEVER be a teacher.

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                                        shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
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                                        Add nurses getting punched by demented lead ridden boomers and society's cooked.

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                                        • D david_eight@lemmy.world

                                          It's a child, calm down lol

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                                          explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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                                          People are just violent apes until you raise them to be civilized.

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