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  • V village604@adultswim.fan

    I don't really see the issue here. Kid could be acting out due to low blood sugar. It's certainly a reasonable place to start.

    Did the teacher expect the parents to say, "Sorry about that, we just bought new jumper cables to beat him with so it won't be a problem anymore."

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    michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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    Functional people don't punch their teacher in the face because they don't have enough to eat. He may have had low blood sugar AND a behavioral or mental issue that needs to be addressed.

    At minimum I would expect a letter from the kid as to what they did was wrong and an apology from both parents and kid. I would expect an offer to pay for the glasses. I would expect the kid to be punished severely. A good example would be selling the kids ps5 to pay for the glasses and not getting him another console this year and making him spend his free time doing unpleasant chores for a month with no outings or rewards of any kind.

    This is both non-violent, moral, memorable, directly exemplifies the direct connection between wrongdoing and restitution. It doesn't assign blame to a condition as if being hungry forced him to punch his teacher in the face.

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    • T taiyang@lemmy.world

      People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

      Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.

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      pjwestin@lemmy.world
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      I mean, that depends on the age. If that kid is 7 or older, yeah, you should probably look into therapy to figure out where that behavior is coming from. 5 or 6, well, kids are still developing emotional regulation at that point. I'm not saying the reaction should be, "OK, we packed a banana," but probably something more like, "Oh no, I'm so sorry, we're going to have a talk about how it's never OK to hit, have you witnessed this kind of behavior before?" then offer to pay for the glasses. (Also, packing a banana isn't a bad idea, as well as making sure he's getting enough sleep. 9 times out of 10, when young kid gets disregulated, they're over-tired or hungry).

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        People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

        Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.

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        I work at a school and I received training that explicitly told us zero tolerance does not work, made me do a double take. So in at least the northern states things are changing for the better.

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          Ok great, next time your kid hits me I'm going to hit him back.

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          bonsoir@lemmy.ca
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          You're an adult. Just bring your own calming banana. Duh!

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            If you need a calming banana to not punch people not mistreating you in the face you are a garbage person

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            david_eight@lemmy.world
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            It's a child, calm down lol

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            • B bonsoir@lemmy.ca

              You're an adult. Just bring your own calming banana. Duh!

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              lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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              Unfortunately I don't possess any banana related super powers.

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              • D david_eight@lemmy.world

                It's a child, calm down lol

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                psythik@lemmy.world
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                This "child" could be 7 or 17, which makes a huge difference regarding the appropriateness of their response. We need more context.

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                  Assuming this is anything above pre-k, I'd be hoping that the parents would respond with "Sorry we've spoken with him about this unacceptable behavior / we're connecting with a children's counselor to address anger issues / etc."

                  If it's at the point that I'm getting punched in the face at work, I might also be annoyed at their response being

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                  dondelelcaro@lemmy.world
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                  And if this was a teacher with a real incident in a public school, you'd expect their response to involve a parent/teacher conference with administration, possibly a behavioral intervention plan or other outcomes. Email isn't enough.

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                    You're an adult. Just bring your own calming banana. Duh!

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                    hits the kid with the banana

                    "Calm the fuck down!"

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                      bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
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                      Dude school kids were awful when I was one and couldn't understand why they couldn't think logically. I cant imagine how bad it is now after decades of brainrot and phones in schools. I would NEVER be a teacher.

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                        shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
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                        Add nurses getting punched by demented lead ridden boomers and society's cooked.

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                        • D david_eight@lemmy.world

                          It's a child, calm down lol

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                          explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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                          People are just violent apes until you raise them to be civilized.

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                            I work at a school and I received training that explicitly told us zero tolerance does not work, made me do a double take. So in at least the northern states things are changing for the better.

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                            taiyang@lemmy.world
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                            Yup, I teach at University in California and get to cite that. It's a little counter intuitive for people, but it's true and much better for teachers to understand. I imagine some places ignore data, though.

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                              hactar42@lemmy.ml
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                              As a youth soccer coach, I'd take this over some of the parents I've dealt with. We had one girl bullying other kids and when we told the mom she refused to believe us. Even when one of the other coaches told her she overheard it. The mom just said she must have misheard.

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                                the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world
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                                I need a calming banana after reading this.

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                                  tempermentalanomaly@lemmy.world
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                                  Why do people believe this even happened? When did this happen? Which country did this happen in?

                                  This is rage bait. The users name is "johnny bananas".

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                                    Why do people believe this even happened? When did this happen? Which country did this happen in?

                                    This is rage bait. The users name is "johnny bananas".

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                                    EchoCranium
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                                    Is it faked? Probably. Is it outside the realm of possibility? Not at all. My mom spent most of her life as an elementary school teacher. I got to hear a lot of the stories about kids she dealt with. Some kids are messed up and need help. Too often their parents are too in one way or another. Mom loved all the kids, even the difficult ones. She said it would be a perfect job if she didn't have to deal with the crazy parents and school administrators.

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                                      Dude school kids were awful when I was one and couldn't understand why they couldn't think logically. I cant imagine how bad it is now after decades of brainrot and phones in schools. I would NEVER be a teacher.

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                                      jarix@lemmy.world
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                                      I would but no one is offering enough money for me to do that job

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                                      • D david_eight@lemmy.world

                                        It's a child, calm down lol

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                                        passerby6497@lemmy.world
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                                        Nah, even as a child that's unacceptable. My kid is only 5 and I don't let them hit people, and punish them when they do. The response from the parent shows the apple fell straight down

                                        Edit: if you think this is advocating violence against children, go touch grass or read a single book on parenting ffs. Natural/logical consequences make good punishments for misbehavior, and have gone a long way to helping my kid not act out (and are nonviolent, since that has to be spelled out)

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                                          Nah, even as a child that's unacceptable. My kid is only 5 and I don't let them hit people, and punish them when they do. The response from the parent shows the apple fell straight down

                                          Edit: if you think this is advocating violence against children, go touch grass or read a single book on parenting ffs. Natural/logical consequences make good punishments for misbehavior, and have gone a long way to helping my kid not act out (and are nonviolent, since that has to be spelled out)

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                                          faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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                                          Yeah, it's unacceptable, but it's also unacceptable to call a child a "garbage person" for acting like a child.

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