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AI is making us write more code.

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  • Mark LevisonM Mark Levison

    The bottleneck was never writing code. It's understanding what to build.

    If you're using AI coding tools, focus on:
    • Smaller features (if it's 1000 lines, it's too big to review)
    • Clear acceptance criteria before you prompt
    • Tests first, AI-generated code second
    • Security audits (AI can't do this)

    More code isn't the goal. Solving real problems is.

    Mark LevisonM This user is from outside of this forum
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    Full analysis:
    https://agilepainrelief.com/blog/ai-generated-code-quality-problems/?utm_source=mastodon&utm_campaign=archive-reshare

    #AI #AIinSoftwareDevelopment

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    • Mark LevisonM Mark Levison

      AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

      I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

      → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
      → 30-41% increase in technical debt
      → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
      → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

      We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

      TormodA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mlevison

      Amen to that, brother…

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      • Mark LevisonM Mark Levison

        AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

        I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

        → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
        → 30-41% increase in technical debt
        → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
        → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

        We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

        LunaticDancerL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @mlevison so true, it astounds me people didn't see this coming from the start. Also there's the cognitive deterioration double whammy.

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        • Mark LevisonM Mark Levison

          AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

          I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

          → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
          → 30-41% increase in technical debt
          → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
          → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

          We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

          Oliver SchönrockO This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mlevison

          That's my experience too.

          Dave Farley's. MSE channe, which I usually respect,l recently claimed the opposite though, based on a study they took part in.

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          • Mark LevisonM Mark Levison

            AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

            I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

            → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
            → 30-41% increase in technical debt
            → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
            → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

            We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

            PiperP This user is from outside of this forum
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            @mlevison Goodhart's law in action. Actually, I'm not sure it even is an example of Goodhart's law. Raw quantity of code output would never have correlated strongly with quality. What do they think they're doing‽

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            • Mark LevisonM Mark Levison

              AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

              I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

              → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
              → 30-41% increase in technical debt
              → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
              → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

              We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

              GothmogC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @mlevison I use LLMs to help me with basic code writing tasks, generating the structural frameworks, saving me a lot of typing time. However, I never rely on that code out of the box, I always review it thoroughly and often just snip and prune. I would never attempt to give an LLM a complicated set of instructions, it's going to fail every time.

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              • GothmogC Gothmog

                @mlevison I use LLMs to help me with basic code writing tasks, generating the structural frameworks, saving me a lot of typing time. However, I never rely on that code out of the box, I always review it thoroughly and often just snip and prune. I would never attempt to give an LLM a complicated set of instructions, it's going to fail every time.

                GothmogC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @mlevison Intellisense, pretti, etc. are all just tools for a smart developer.

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                • Mark LevisonM Mark Levison

                  AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

                  I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

                  → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
                  → 30-41% increase in technical debt
                  → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
                  → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

                  We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

                  Chris PittsT This user is from outside of this forum
                  Chris PittsT This user is from outside of this forum
                  Chris Pitts
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                  #10

                  @mlevison I hear you. I am seeing it first hand. And I am being hammered for pointing this out and encouraging caution, while others are being rewarded for shipping 💩 “because AI”.

                  Just call me ‘Cassandra’ 🤷‍♂️

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                  • Mark LevisonM Mark Levison

                    Full analysis:
                    https://agilepainrelief.com/blog/ai-generated-code-quality-problems/?utm_source=mastodon&utm_campaign=archive-reshare

                    #AI #AIinSoftwareDevelopment

                    SamS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @mlevison This talk on AI productivity from a Stanford researcher goes into detail on this. Really interesting and gels with what you're saying: the actual productivity gains tended to be with simple (low-complexity, greenfield) tasks rather than anything bigger or more complex. https://youtu.be/tbDDYKRFjhk?si=AM5DPcJGeg_3ignp

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                    • GothmogC Gothmog

                      @mlevison Intellisense, pretti, etc. are all just tools for a smart developer.

                      Chris PittsT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @crackhappy @mlevison Jetbrains vanilla Intellisense was pretty good even before the latest epidemic of AI psychosis.

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                      • Chris PittsT Chris Pitts

                        @crackhappy @mlevison Jetbrains vanilla Intellisense was pretty good even before the latest epidemic of AI psychosis.

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                        @thirstybear @mlevison I refuse to call what we currently have "Artificial Intelligence" because it is not. It's a fundamentally clever implementation of Markov chains with way way too much power applied.

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