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Imagine not believing that EVs will work for most Canadians in 2026.

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  • May Likes TorontoM This user is from outside of this forum
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    Imagine not believing that EVs will work for most Canadians in 2026. We're probably the only country where almost every parking spot (outside southern Ontario and BC) has an electrical outlet.

    #subtoot

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      Imagine not believing that EVs will work for most Canadians in 2026. We're probably the only country where almost every parking spot (outside southern Ontario and BC) has an electrical outlet.

      #subtoot

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      Okay, maybe not the only country. But one of the few.

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        Okay, maybe not the only country. But one of the few.

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        @mayintoronto I love EVs for getting us away from fossil fuel emissions. We have a lot of charging stations at my local chain grocery store. I think we could easily convert all gas stations to charging stations. Think of the profits they could make on all the snacks and soda that convenience stores sell while you charge your vehicle. They don't make money on gas, but rather the stuff you buy in the store, which is why I thought it strange that pay at the pump ever caught on with gas station owners.

        The only downsides I can see are that EVs require precious metals to make them, and that during disasters (which are more frequent now) they can catch on fire. But, perhaps they are a stepping stone, until someone can figure out a way to manufacture a car that is powered in a different way. *Anything* is better than gas vehicles.

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        • Kim Possible :kimoji_fire:K Kim Possible :kimoji_fire:

          @mayintoronto I love EVs for getting us away from fossil fuel emissions. We have a lot of charging stations at my local chain grocery store. I think we could easily convert all gas stations to charging stations. Think of the profits they could make on all the snacks and soda that convenience stores sell while you charge your vehicle. They don't make money on gas, but rather the stuff you buy in the store, which is why I thought it strange that pay at the pump ever caught on with gas station owners.

          The only downsides I can see are that EVs require precious metals to make them, and that during disasters (which are more frequent now) they can catch on fire. But, perhaps they are a stepping stone, until someone can figure out a way to manufacture a car that is powered in a different way. *Anything* is better than gas vehicles.

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          @kimlockhartga Batteries don't last as long in the deep cold. That's the main issue here. But that's kind of irrelevant given how short most trips are for the average person with a car.

          It's not like you don't need rare metals for EVs either.

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            @kimlockhartga Batteries don't last as long in the deep cold. That's the main issue here. But that's kind of irrelevant given how short most trips are for the average person with a car.

            It's not like you don't need rare metals for EVs either.

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            @mayintoronto @kimlockhartga Dieselโ€™s donโ€™t like starting in the deep cold. When I lived in Saskatchewan on the -30 C winter nights it wasnโ€™t uncommon to hear a number of diesel vehicles left running over night, otherwise they wouldnโ€™t start in the morning.

            Every gasoline vehicle would have an electric block heater, and perhaps a battery heater. All of these would be plugged in. Some put timers or sensor setups to limit use, but most just plugged in car before going to bed and unplugged when drove away in morning.

            Even there, the EV combatants would question what if every one plugged in? Conveniently forgetting everyone already does.

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              @mayintoronto @kimlockhartga Dieselโ€™s donโ€™t like starting in the deep cold. When I lived in Saskatchewan on the -30 C winter nights it wasnโ€™t uncommon to hear a number of diesel vehicles left running over night, otherwise they wouldnโ€™t start in the morning.

              Every gasoline vehicle would have an electric block heater, and perhaps a battery heater. All of these would be plugged in. Some put timers or sensor setups to limit use, but most just plugged in car before going to bed and unplugged when drove away in morning.

              Even there, the EV combatants would question what if every one plugged in? Conveniently forgetting everyone already does.

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              @pinhman @mayintoronto @kimlockhartga

              A block heater takes about 300watts, an interior warmer is minimum 500 watts but usually more, a battery warmer around 60 watts. So that about 900 watts for a conventional gas powered vehicles being "plugged in" at those parking lot plugs that are everywhere on the Canadian prairies.

              By comparison a typical #EV granny charger is only around 1200 watts.

              #Saskatchewan is better positioned than almost anywhere in the world to adopt EVs for day to day use.

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