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  3. And so but anyway, did I ever tell you about my most humiliating experience as a skilled and successful computer programmer?

And so but anyway, did I ever tell you about my most humiliating experience as a skilled and successful computer programmer?

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  • GeePawHillG GeePawHill

    Not, I repeat, my only great failure as a geek.

    But, *damn*, that was humiliating.

    I wrote an *excellent* program that *brilliantly* displayed data coming from hardware that didn't work.

    It was a gig. I got paid. That's not the point. I was a pro, and pro's deliver *value*.

    All I delivered was a good laugh.

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    @GeePawHill Wow. What a story. Awesome.

    But somebody hired you. This wasn’t your idea. You didn’t say “I have an idea: let’s bring these 3 devices together on an icebreaker.”

    So somebody knew enough about these 5 things: icebreakers, gps, speed logs, radar, and computer programmers. They knew enough to imagine what each could do, but not enough to know that this wasn’t going to work at all.

    And the supreme irony that you forgot to mention: all 4 ships, the icebreaker and its 3 ships behind, all made it safely to where they were going even while your thing didn’t work at all.

    Brilliant story though. Humbling and hilarious.

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    • GeePawHillG GeePawHill

      Upside: I saw many many seals, and a polar bear from a distance. The comedy officer was actually the helicopter maintenance guy, and I got a helicopter tour of an iceberg. All of that was rather awesome.

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      And, for the record, I have been a successful professional programmer, an independent, for 45 years. I've failed more times than most people have even tried.

      Some days you get the bear.

      Some days the bear gets you.

      Find joy in it. Without joy, why are we even doing this shit?

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      • GeePawHillG GeePawHill

        And I was sub-contracted to do that. It was about a six month long project. I wrote an entire windowing system on top of DOS to use VGA to show the display.

        (I'm a good fucking programmer, and that's not the only time I've written a graphical UI from scratch.)

        And. A comical note: about six weeks before the project was due, my hard drive died. And. My backup drive died.

        All I had were some two-month old printouts.

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        @GeePawHill I’m fairly sure Fred Brooks didn’t mean that when he said “Plan to throw one away”, but whatever floats your boat… 🤷‍♂️😉

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        • NickC Nick

          @GeePawHill That was good to read about your success, congratulations .The bit about emerging with no more than a bent antenna with oil on it struck me so funny my brain will be replaying it for a good while, thanks! 🙂

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          @GeePawHill FWIW, I should have added that our local Ice breaking here on Lake Superior is by the USCGC Spar that uses a "Dynamic Positioning System" that sounds like what you are dealing with. I admire folks that can write programs, best I could do was write and print labels for single sided 180's back in the day.

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          • Chris PittsT Chris Pitts

            @GeePawHill I’m fairly sure Fred Brooks didn’t mean that when he said “Plan to throw one away”, but whatever floats your boat… 🤷‍♂️😉

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            @thirstybear Yeah, he wasn't talking about dead drives. 🙂

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            • GeePawHillG GeePawHill

              And, for the record, I have been a successful professional programmer, an independent, for 45 years. I've failed more times than most people have even tried.

              Some days you get the bear.

              Some days the bear gets you.

              Find joy in it. Without joy, why are we even doing this shit?

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              @GeePawHill Yep. It’s that joy that I love about engineering in general. Which is why I don’t subscribe to the current fad of using random text generators. Altman can pry that joy from my cold, dead fingers.

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              • Chris PittsT Chris Pitts

                @GeePawHill Yep. It’s that joy that I love about engineering in general. Which is why I don’t subscribe to the current fad of using random text generators. Altman can pry that joy from my cold, dead fingers.

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                @thirstybear Indeed. I keep re-posting it:

                "Take the pledge, kids: I don't use LLMs for coding and I don't kiss boys who do."

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                • GeePawHillG GeePawHill

                  And so but anyway, did I ever tell you about my most humiliating experience as a skilled and successful computer programmer?

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                  @GeePawHill A great story, and well told. Thank you for this!

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                  • GeePawHillG GeePawHill

                    So I fly to Newfoundland, and I get on an actual icebreaker ship.

                    Oh my people, it was so fucking cool. Icebreakers aren't gigantic, like container ships or tanker ships, but they're *big*, just the same.

                    And the Canadian Coast Guard is a commercial service, not a military one, so even tho they spend months at sea, they take very good care of their sailors, so, broadly speaking, the place was all modern cons.

                    (You still have to take navy showers, but other than that.)

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                    @GeePawHill for the people with a lot of extea money to spend i can recommend the luxury cruise ice breaker Le Commandant Charcot of Ponant cruises. festured in Will Smith's northpole documentary. We've sailed it to Antarctica visiting the Emperor penguins.

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                    • GeePawHillG GeePawHill

                      And, for the record, I have been a successful professional programmer, an independent, for 45 years. I've failed more times than most people have even tried.

                      Some days you get the bear.

                      Some days the bear gets you.

                      Find joy in it. Without joy, why are we even doing this shit?

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                      @GeePawHill This was a great story.

                      Moral of the story: talk to the fucking customer.

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                      • May Likes TorontoM May Likes Toronto

                        @GeePawHill This was a great story.

                        Moral of the story: talk to the fucking customer.

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                        @mayintoronto Talk to the motherfucking customer.

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                        • GeePawHillG GeePawHill

                          @mayintoronto Talk to the motherfucking customer.

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                          @GeePawHill @mayintoronto and talk to the end-user, who may not be the same person!

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                          • GeePawHillG GeePawHill

                            Not, I repeat, my only great failure as a geek.

                            But, *damn*, that was humiliating.

                            I wrote an *excellent* program that *brilliantly* displayed data coming from hardware that didn't work.

                            It was a gig. I got paid. That's not the point. I was a pro, and pro's deliver *value*.

                            All I delivered was a good laugh.

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                            @GeePawHill reminds me of my Dad's story about crossing the dateline and the equator at the same time: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Qkj87gS9FDkfFcJB_ryqf1uE334f-k7W5h5G_mNxxmw/edit?usp=drivesdk

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                            • GeePawHillG GeePawHill

                              Man, I had some fails in my time, but this one wasn't just a fail, it was fucking *embarrassing*.

                              "Build a special custom icebreaking display using the hardware on the ship, it'll be brilliant!"

                              The hardware doesn't work in the ice. Any actual icebreaker captain could have told me -- us -- that, had we -- they -- ever actually consulted one.

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                              @GeePawHill here's an illustration of another good point : go on the field to see how shit works before coding any line of code that's suppose to fix that shit.

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