I've spent the last 3 years explicitly avoiding talking about GrapheneOS or Daniel Micay online because I assumed good faith after last time when he said my behavior (dunking on him on twitter) was deeply distressing to him.

@cas yeah fuck grapheneOS

i saw this shit 2 years ago with louis rossmann: https://youtu.be/4To-F6W1NT0

sorry to hear that its happening with u too

@Logical_Error @cas Louis Rossmann is apparently a KiwiFarms lurker and has harassed GOS in the past with his FUTO project thing which also platforms fascists.

Would not recommend watching

@fun @cas wait what? could you provide a source? this is the first time im hearing about this

@fun @Logical_Error @cas did FUTO even exist back when this video was created?

@Logical_Error @cas The KF part I just saw this in a fediverse thread

In any case FUTO is quite a questionable orga: https://drewdevault.com/2025/10/22/2025-10-22-Whats-up-with-FUTO.html

@zyx @Logical_Error @cas apparently they tried to 'fund' GrapheneOS then apparently blackmailed them and it didn't go well.

@zyx @Logical_Error @cas In any case I think Micay really needs help regarding his current state ASAP, from what I can tell it's only getting worse everyday...

@Logical_Error @cas @zyx it actually feels sad to watch

@fun @Logical_Error @cas wait he's a kiwifarms lurker ???? what
do you have a source for that? i watch him occasionally and have always sorta gotten strange vibes from him but if that's true i'm definitely never watching him again

@b @Logical_Error @cas From further research he apparently has a KF account.

@fun @Logical_Error @cas aaaaa fuck ,,, well tysm for letting me know

@b @Logical_Error @cas It seems he also got KF involved in the harassment of Micay.

@Logical_Error @cas After engaging in months of bullying and supporting another person orchestrating harassment towards the lead developer of GrapheneOS, Louis trolled them about the situation in a direct message while live streaming it. Nearly everything he claims is this video is a fabrication or misrepresentation. You should rewatch it and pay close attention to what he's claiming. He didn't even actually stop using it, his subscribers figured out was his daily driver for almost a year after.

@Logical_Error @cas He had made numerous public attacks in our chat rooms, his live streams and his videos prior to that video. His narrative that it had to do with him posting a comment on a video is nonsense. The video he's supporting very clearly extraordinarily fabricated harassment content, and that's from the person who orchestrated their community harassing us to the point of trying to kill the lead developer of GrapheneOS at the time. That was not Kiwi Farms, it was a small YouTuber.

@Logical_Error @cas Kiwi Farms became involved because Rossmann has strong support there and actively uses the site with an identity verified account. He made this content using their tactics and approach which caters to them. In it, he's leaking a private chat where he's clearly trolling and feigning ignorance while live streaming it and then doing a monologue lying about all of it. He leaks that the person he's targeting is autistic, leaks other personal info and posted private emails too.

@fun @cas dug a bit

he is only active on kiwi farms on a thread that talks about him:
- https://archive.is/FMXGC
- https://archive.ph/JNmsF
- https://archive.ph/mfl4H

why he joined: https://social.treehouse.systems/@be_far/111915291106537851 (tl;dw: wants to engage if people talk about him. but if others say his alt attacked them, it's a genuine possibility now)

part of futo from aug 2022 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tca6xsBEuGw) to feb 2025 (first bullet) and left on good terms. he could partly be responsible for drew's accusations due to ...

@fun @cas ...his high role but may be unaware as drew's piece came out after

reason he joined futo (tl;dw wants to give $ to OSS): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIr8Bk8QOHE

i couldn't find anything he said that was explicitly fascist, but he seems to be surrounding himself with or is surrounded by fascist sympathizers. he also hasn't said anything about grapheneOS after posting that video (either on KF or youtube) that i saw

time will tell how this will play out. pretty concerning & ty for bringing it up

@Logical_Error @cas well having a KF account, no matter the reason, is a huge red flag.

@fun @cas yep agreed