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  • D Diogo 🇪🇺

    @ecosia

    Out of curiosity, I analysed Ecosia's infrastructure (through IPs and ASNs) to find out whether it is #European or not.

    I was surprised to find that it relies on #AWS S3 for financial data reports (stored .json data), #Amazon Cloudfront for the Ecosia.org search, Fastly for blog.ecosia.org, #Cloudflare for the Ecosia.org homepage, #Google Ads and probably others.

    In July 2025, they posted on their blog that 'digital #sovereignty is just #oneclickaway', stating that Europe's digital backbone is dependent on the US and all the problems this entails, such as a lack of control.

    They also said, 'We've always believed that where you search matters' and 'Digital #sovereignty is climate action too', despite the fact that they depend on Big Tech themselves and use almost no EU infrastructure in practice.

    As Ecosia is a signatory to the #EuroStack initiative, why haven't you migrated your infrastructure to #European solutions?

    It is worrying to know that, by switching to Ecosia, practically 100% of my traffic goes through non-EU companies. I would like to see more independence on your part.

    'Building and using local infrastructure means reducing transatlantic data traffic, increasing energy efficiency, and cutting down on the carbon footprint of cloud computing. Plus, tech companies that are based here are more likely to be held accountable to EU environmental standards. It's a win-win.’ – Ecosia Blog https://blog.ecosia.org/digital-sovereignty-is-just-oneclickaway/

    #eu #ecosia #eurostack #sovereignty #privacy #bigtech #sustainability

    MariuszM This user is from outside of this forum
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    Mariusz
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    @diogop I mean aren’t they just a wrapper around Bing API anyway?

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    • D Diogo 🇪🇺

      @ecosia

      Out of curiosity, I analysed Ecosia's infrastructure (through IPs and ASNs) to find out whether it is #European or not.

      I was surprised to find that it relies on #AWS S3 for financial data reports (stored .json data), #Amazon Cloudfront for the Ecosia.org search, Fastly for blog.ecosia.org, #Cloudflare for the Ecosia.org homepage, #Google Ads and probably others.

      In July 2025, they posted on their blog that 'digital #sovereignty is just #oneclickaway', stating that Europe's digital backbone is dependent on the US and all the problems this entails, such as a lack of control.

      They also said, 'We've always believed that where you search matters' and 'Digital #sovereignty is climate action too', despite the fact that they depend on Big Tech themselves and use almost no EU infrastructure in practice.

      As Ecosia is a signatory to the #EuroStack initiative, why haven't you migrated your infrastructure to #European solutions?

      It is worrying to know that, by switching to Ecosia, practically 100% of my traffic goes through non-EU companies. I would like to see more independence on your part.

      'Building and using local infrastructure means reducing transatlantic data traffic, increasing energy efficiency, and cutting down on the carbon footprint of cloud computing. Plus, tech companies that are based here are more likely to be held accountable to EU environmental standards. It's a win-win.’ – Ecosia Blog https://blog.ecosia.org/digital-sovereignty-is-just-oneclickaway/

      #eu #ecosia #eurostack #sovereignty #privacy #bigtech #sustainability

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      Eric
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      @diogop @ecosia 🤦

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      • MariuszM Mariusz

        @diogop I mean aren’t they just a wrapper around Bing API anyway?

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        @mariusz @diogop https://blog.ecosia.org/launching-our-european-search-index/ would not say "just"

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        • D Diogo 🇪🇺

          @ecosia

          Out of curiosity, I analysed Ecosia's infrastructure (through IPs and ASNs) to find out whether it is #European or not.

          I was surprised to find that it relies on #AWS S3 for financial data reports (stored .json data), #Amazon Cloudfront for the Ecosia.org search, Fastly for blog.ecosia.org, #Cloudflare for the Ecosia.org homepage, #Google Ads and probably others.

          In July 2025, they posted on their blog that 'digital #sovereignty is just #oneclickaway', stating that Europe's digital backbone is dependent on the US and all the problems this entails, such as a lack of control.

          They also said, 'We've always believed that where you search matters' and 'Digital #sovereignty is climate action too', despite the fact that they depend on Big Tech themselves and use almost no EU infrastructure in practice.

          As Ecosia is a signatory to the #EuroStack initiative, why haven't you migrated your infrastructure to #European solutions?

          It is worrying to know that, by switching to Ecosia, practically 100% of my traffic goes through non-EU companies. I would like to see more independence on your part.

          'Building and using local infrastructure means reducing transatlantic data traffic, increasing energy efficiency, and cutting down on the carbon footprint of cloud computing. Plus, tech companies that are based here are more likely to be held accountable to EU environmental standards. It's a win-win.’ – Ecosia Blog https://blog.ecosia.org/digital-sovereignty-is-just-oneclickaway/

          #eu #ecosia #eurostack #sovereignty #privacy #bigtech #sustainability

          ShadysDadS This user is from outside of this forum
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          ShadysDad
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          @diogop @ecosia I literally switched today to Ecosia, as part of a move to try to switch away from US based tech. So am I best switching again to Quant?

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          • platlasP platlas

            @mariusz @diogop https://blog.ecosia.org/launching-our-european-search-index/ would not say "just"

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            Mariusz
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            @platlas @diogop oh that I didn’t know, I guess they’re doing things right sometimes (and sometimes completely backwards)

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            • ShadysDadS ShadysDad

              @diogop @ecosia I literally switched today to Ecosia, as part of a move to try to switch away from US based tech. So am I best switching again to Quant?

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              Diogo 🇪🇺
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              @shadysdad @ecosia #Qwant prefers to use European infrastructure and utilises #OVHCloud, the European leader in cloud solutions.

              I personally switched to Qwant because of this.

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              • MariuszM Mariusz

                @platlas @diogop oh that I didn’t know, I guess they’re doing things right sometimes (and sometimes completely backwards)

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                platlas
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                @mariusz @diogop They are doing it together with Qwant. Not sure what is current situation. I haven't found more updates.

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                • MariuszM Mariusz

                  @platlas @diogop oh that I didn’t know, I guess they’re doing things right sometimes (and sometimes completely backwards)

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                  Diogo 🇪🇺
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                  @mariusz @platlas There is a lack of transparency on the part of Ecosia regarding the infrastructure they use (probably for the reasons I pointed out).

                  I hope that Ecosia and Qwant, through #EUSP, will enable Ecosia to greatly improve its European digital sovereignty with the help of Qwant.

                  I just want Ecosia to stop relying on US infrastructure and Big Tech, because in Europe we have much more sustainable, cheaper alternatives that are better aligned with Ecosia's interests and mission and support the local businesses.

                  #eusp #eu #sovereignty #ecosia #qwant #sustainability

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                  • MariuszM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Mariusz
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                    @327ppm @platlas @diogop that’s pretty cool

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                    • D Diogo 🇪🇺

                      @ecosia

                      Out of curiosity, I analysed Ecosia's infrastructure (through IPs and ASNs) to find out whether it is #European or not.

                      I was surprised to find that it relies on #AWS S3 for financial data reports (stored .json data), #Amazon Cloudfront for the Ecosia.org search, Fastly for blog.ecosia.org, #Cloudflare for the Ecosia.org homepage, #Google Ads and probably others.

                      In July 2025, they posted on their blog that 'digital #sovereignty is just #oneclickaway', stating that Europe's digital backbone is dependent on the US and all the problems this entails, such as a lack of control.

                      They also said, 'We've always believed that where you search matters' and 'Digital #sovereignty is climate action too', despite the fact that they depend on Big Tech themselves and use almost no EU infrastructure in practice.

                      As Ecosia is a signatory to the #EuroStack initiative, why haven't you migrated your infrastructure to #European solutions?

                      It is worrying to know that, by switching to Ecosia, practically 100% of my traffic goes through non-EU companies. I would like to see more independence on your part.

                      'Building and using local infrastructure means reducing transatlantic data traffic, increasing energy efficiency, and cutting down on the carbon footprint of cloud computing. Plus, tech companies that are based here are more likely to be held accountable to EU environmental standards. It's a win-win.’ – Ecosia Blog https://blog.ecosia.org/digital-sovereignty-is-just-oneclickaway/

                      #eu #ecosia #eurostack #sovereignty #privacy #bigtech #sustainability

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                      Steffi the Redhead
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                      @diogop @ecosia Signal also uses AWS.
                      The argument is that you need a fast infrastructure that is internationally available. And that doesn't work solely from Europe. You would always have lags from the other side of the world.

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                        Mariusz
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                        @327ppm @platlas @diogop fingers crossed, I am super pro digital sovereignty, so the frontend to other indexes never sat that well with me

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