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  3. If anyone is involved in the UK #Green Party they might want to look at motion A6 for the spring conference which includes

If anyone is involved in the UK #Green Party they might want to look at motion A6 for the spring conference which includes

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  • The Penguin of EvilE This user is from outside of this forum
    The Penguin of EvilE This user is from outside of this forum
    The Penguin of Evil
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    If anyone is involved in the UK #Green Party they might want to look at motion A6 for the spring conference
    which includes

    "The Green Party supports users’ rights to control the digital devices they own,
    including the right to install, modify or replace operating systems and
    software, access full file systems, and remove pre-installed applications,
    particularly on computers and smartphones."

    and some amendment discussions around @pluralistic proposals on killing DRM and #enshittification

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    • The Penguin of EvilE The Penguin of Evil

      If anyone is involved in the UK #Green Party they might want to look at motion A6 for the spring conference
      which includes

      "The Green Party supports users’ rights to control the digital devices they own,
      including the right to install, modify or replace operating systems and
      software, access full file systems, and remove pre-installed applications,
      particularly on computers and smartphones."

      and some amendment discussions around @pluralistic proposals on killing DRM and #enshittification

      DanielD This user is from outside of this forum
      DanielD This user is from outside of this forum
      Daniel
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      @etchedpixels @pluralistic for clarity, this is England & Wales? (Scottish Greens is a separate thing)

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        @etchedpixels @pluralistic for clarity, this is England & Wales? (Scottish Greens is a separate thing)

        The Penguin of EvilE This user is from outside of this forum
        The Penguin of EvilE This user is from outside of this forum
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        @dan @pluralistic yes

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        • The Penguin of EvilE The Penguin of Evil

          If anyone is involved in the UK #Green Party they might want to look at motion A6 for the spring conference
          which includes

          "The Green Party supports users’ rights to control the digital devices they own,
          including the right to install, modify or replace operating systems and
          software, access full file systems, and remove pre-installed applications,
          particularly on computers and smartphones."

          and some amendment discussions around @pluralistic proposals on killing DRM and #enshittification

          rumpelR This user is from outside of this forum
          rumpelR This user is from outside of this forum
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          @etchedpixels @pluralistic wonder what that right is worth with device attestation making such users ineligible for most apps for "security" reasons

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            @etchedpixels @pluralistic wonder what that right is worth with device attestation making such users ineligible for most apps for "security" reasons

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            LauraL This user is from outside of this forum
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            @rumpel @etchedpixels @pluralistic The one practical thing that can stop this attestation nightmare is legislation. The other would be an immediate and complete boycott, but we know that one isn't happening.

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            • The Penguin of EvilE The Penguin of Evil

              If anyone is involved in the UK #Green Party they might want to look at motion A6 for the spring conference
              which includes

              "The Green Party supports users’ rights to control the digital devices they own,
              including the right to install, modify or replace operating systems and
              software, access full file systems, and remove pre-installed applications,
              particularly on computers and smartphones."

              and some amendment discussions around @pluralistic proposals on killing DRM and #enshittification

              U.LancierU This user is from outside of this forum
              U.LancierU This user is from outside of this forum
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              @etchedpixels @pluralistic missing the „right to repair“ and the duty of the maker to provide documentation.

              Additionally the duty to make the products technical details public domain as soon as they quit servicing or closing business.

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                @etchedpixels @pluralistic missing the „right to repair“ and the duty of the maker to provide documentation.

                Additionally the duty to make the products technical details public domain as soon as they quit servicing or closing business.

                The Penguin of EvilE This user is from outside of this forum
                The Penguin of EvilE This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Ulan_KA @pluralistic right to repair is a whole unrelated policy issue, and applies to a very different range of objects many of which, despite the best efforts of the vendor, don't have apps or even software

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                • The Penguin of EvilE The Penguin of Evil

                  @Ulan_KA @pluralistic right to repair is a whole unrelated policy issue, and applies to a very different range of objects many of which, despite the best efforts of the vendor, don't have apps or even software

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                  @etchedpixels @pluralistic true, but the problem is the same whether it is a dumb unserviceable Toaster, an unserviceable in its hard- and software Smartphone, or even some heath device allowing blind people to see or paralized people to move about - until the device dies due to missing software, servers, dying batteries or repair.

                  And I'm not talking about the vendor, but of the makers: whoever brings technology of any kind (software, hardware, bioware…) into the market has to provide full ownership to buyers. Otherwise they must not declare it a sell and have to take responsibility when they can't fulfill their dutys on the contract anymore.

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