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Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

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  • Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
    Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
    Charlie Stross
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    Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

    In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

    Solarbird :flag_cascadia:M STPS leyrerL mmbyM David GerardD 31 Replies Last reply
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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

      In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

      Solarbird :flag_cascadia:M This user is from outside of this forum
      Solarbird :flag_cascadia:M This user is from outside of this forum
      Solarbird :flag_cascadia:
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      @cstross in other words, scientology?

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

        In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

        STPS This user is from outside of this forum
        STPS This user is from outside of this forum
        STP
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        @cstross Can I join a list for a signed first edition hardcover of this now?

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

          In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

          leyrerL This user is from outside of this forum
          leyrerL This user is from outside of this forum
          leyrer
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          @cstross your brain wouldn't stop, throwing ideass at you, would it?

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

            In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

            mmbyM This user is from outside of this forum
            mmbyM This user is from outside of this forum
            mmby
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            @cstross you realize this is intriguing but from the outside-in extremely on-brand?

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

              In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

              David GerardD This user is from outside of this forum
              David GerardD This user is from outside of this forum
              David Gerard
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              @cstross 3dfx inspired, right?

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              • STPS STP

                @cstross Can I join a list for a signed first edition hardcover of this now?

                Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                Charlie Stross
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                @SciPolTech No because I'm not writing it: I'm already 400 words into the sequel to "Starter Pack" and it's going to take me the rest of the year.

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                  In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

                  Daniel CarosoneU This user is from outside of this forum
                  Daniel CarosoneU This user is from outside of this forum
                  Daniel Carosone
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                  @cstross all accident compensation claims are made directly by the victims, in the flesh (or whatever's left of it)

                  Companies are very serious about safety.

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                    In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

                    acbA This user is from outside of this forum
                    acbA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @cstross K.W. Jeter did something similar in “Noir”

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                      In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

                      sabikS This user is from outside of this forum
                      sabikS This user is from outside of this forum
                      sabik
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                      @cstross
                      Ghosts with unfinished business... literally

                      A director can't pass on until replaced at the next AGM

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                        In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

                        InfoseepageI This user is from outside of this forum
                        InfoseepageI This user is from outside of this forum
                        Infoseepage
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                        @cstross Tangentially related, what if a practical cure for aging was discovered? There is a novel called The Postmortal which imagines the many dystopian aspects of never dying.

                        Richard K Morgan's Altered Carbon series imagines immortality via mind uploading and body swapping tech as technologies which demonstrably have lead to the end of alien civilizations but which humans just can't resist.

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                          In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

                          TheTomasT This user is from outside of this forum
                          TheTomasT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @cstross ah you're talking about 100year copyright protection rights?

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                          • InfoseepageI Infoseepage

                            @cstross Tangentially related, what if a practical cure for aging was discovered? There is a novel called The Postmortal which imagines the many dystopian aspects of never dying.

                            Richard K Morgan's Altered Carbon series imagines immortality via mind uploading and body swapping tech as technologies which demonstrably have lead to the end of alien civilizations but which humans just can't resist.

                            InfoseepageI This user is from outside of this forum
                            InfoseepageI This user is from outside of this forum
                            Infoseepage
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                            @cstross Both have the idea of immortality as a sort of cultural trap with the potential for permanent underclasses and rulling classes and horrifically long term contracts.

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                              In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

                              David SP This user is from outside of this forum
                              David SP This user is from outside of this forum
                              David S
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                              @cstross

                              Sounds a bit like Jack Gilmour

                              https://www.goodreads.com/series/375633-wish-lawyer-law-is-hell

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

                                wiredfoolW This user is from outside of this forum
                                wiredfoolW This user is from outside of this forum
                                wiredfool
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                                @cstross Sounds a bit like some of Max Gladstones work.

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                                • leyrerL leyrer

                                  @cstross your brain wouldn't stop, throwing ideass at you, would it?

                                  towoT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  towoT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @leyrer
                                  Sometimes it's just @foone being a muse: https://wandering.shop/@cstross/116108084351760427
                                  @cstross

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                    In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

                                    molosovsky  🐿✊💗M This user is from outside of this forum
                                    molosovsky  🐿✊💗M This user is from outside of this forum
                                    molosovsky 🐿✊💗
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                                    @cstross See real world demonology and immortality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juridical_person

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                                    • towoT towo

                                      @leyrer
                                      Sometimes it's just @foone being a muse: https://wandering.shop/@cstross/116108084351760427
                                      @cstross

                                      leyrerL This user is from outside of this forum
                                      leyrerL This user is from outside of this forum
                                      leyrer
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                                      @towo I saw that 😄

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                        In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

                                        Marco AntoniottiM This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Marco AntoniottiM This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Marco Antoniotti
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                                        @cstross may I suggest Katarina Pistor's "The Code of Capital"?

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                          In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

                                          ElectropictE This user is from outside of this forum
                                          ElectropictE This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Electropict
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                                          @cstross

                                          I think we're just about there IRL.

                                          Someone just needs to pitch it to the VCs and obtainable politicians:

                                          LLM bots that not only mimic your features, voice and writing style, but also can maintain your legal existence, rights, liabilities and specifically copyrights until the heat death of capitalism.

                                          There's money to be made, or rather, kept...

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