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Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projectionhttps://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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  • Todd HorowitzT Todd Horowitz

    @infobeautiful I think all projections distort size and shape, so I'm not sure "true country size" is meaningful here.

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    @toddhorowitz @infobeautiful

    Sure, projecting a quasi-spheroid onto a plane will always cause distortions, but you can choose what to distort. Mercator keeps compass bearings and distorts shapes. The Albers Equal-Area projection, among others, keeps sizes but distorts shapes much more. Anyway, you can always calculate the surface area of land. In fact many countries in the world have been quite thoroughly surveyed.

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    • X-tofX X-tof

      @lokjo @infobeautiful it's not an issue about north vs south.
      The difference in size comes from the distance to the equator.

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      @x_tof @infobeautiful

      Ah yes, I thought the equator was the height of northern africa but it's in middle africa.

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      • Lokjo - a European online mapL Lokjo - a European online map

        @x_tof @infobeautiful

        Ah yes, I thought the equator was the height of northern africa but it's in middle africa.

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        @lokjo @x_tof @infobeautiful also, the southern hemisphere looks a lot more impressive in Mercator if you don't hide the Antarctic!

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        • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

          Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
          https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

          Szymon Sokół 🇵🇱🇪🇺🇺🇦B This user is from outside of this forum
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          @infobeautiful there's one thing Mercator is good for: timezones. For all other purposes, there are better projections.

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          • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

            Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
            https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

            DaveyD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @infobeautiful ah sure Greenland is TINY.

            Denmark should just hand it over and quit this dog in the manger stuff.

            /s

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            • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

              Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
              https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

              MėMėNTō MōRi📍🇪🇺🇩🇪M This user is from outside of this forum
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              @infobeautiful

              Author of this map:
              https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/people/neil-kaye

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              • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

                maxmoon 🌱U This user is from outside of this forum
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                @infobeautiful

                The USA isn't that big, let's invade it!

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                • Lokjo - a European online mapL Lokjo - a European online map

                  @x_tof @infobeautiful

                  Ah yes, I thought the equator was the height of northern africa but it's in middle africa.

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                  @lokjo @x_tof @infobeautiful

                  No wonder human perception is so flawed with such input. I too had a misconception of where the equator fell on Africa. I'm glad the link does put Antarctica in perspective on a subsequent map. GIGO

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                  • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                    Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                    https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

                    Robin BartonR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @infobeautiful always interesting to see how different maps tell different stories

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                    • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                      Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                      https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #14

                      @infobeautiful equal earth should be official

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                      • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                        Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                        https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                        @infobeautiful
                        Just learned something.

                        On the typical Map, that I had in school, the size of nealry every country was wrong.

                        Thx for this.

                        Now I have a new rabit-hole...

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                        • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                          Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                          https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                          @infobeautiful MAGAmoron must use Mercator Projection when boasting to underage girls about his dick.

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                          • Todd HorowitzT Todd Horowitz

                            @infobeautiful I think all projections distort size and shape, so I'm not sure "true country size" is meaningful here.

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                            @toddhorowitz @infobeautiful

                            Greenland's land area is approximately six times the size of Germany. Greenland has roughly the same size as Saudi Arabia. The USA is rougly 5 times bigger than Saudi Arabia.)
                            (I have heard this this week and just verified it with wikipedia, I found this comparison helpful)

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                            • stevefaeembraS stevefaeembra

                              @lokjo @x_tof @infobeautiful also, the southern hemisphere looks a lot more impressive in Mercator if you don't hide the Antarctic!

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                              @stevefaeembra @lokjo @x_tof @infobeautiful
                              This one substitutes the Prime Meridian for the equator. (Hilarity ensues)

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                              • Osteopenia Powers ,O Osteopenia Powers ,

                                @stevefaeembra @lokjo @x_tof @infobeautiful
                                This one substitutes the Prime Meridian for the equator. (Hilarity ensues)

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                                @Osteopenia_Powers @stevefaeembra @x_tof @infobeautiful

                                Not sure if this is the link you wanted to post.

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                                • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                                  Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                                  https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

                                  KettleF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @infobeautiful there's an excellent episode of Map Men about this (all their videos are excellent)
                                  https://youtu.be/jtBV3GgQLg8

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                                  • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                                    Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                                    https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                                    @infobeautiful

                                    They gave some Eastern Canada provinces to the US. Don't comply in advance!

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                                    • DaveyD Davey

                                      @infobeautiful ah sure Greenland is TINY.

                                      Denmark should just hand it over and quit this dog in the manger stuff.

                                      /s

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                                      @davey_cakes @infobeautiful or show the orange orangutan this map and he'll have a tantrum then move on to something else?

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                                      • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                                        Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                                        https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                                        @infobeautiful It’s like stepping out of a cold shower!

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                                        • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                                          Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                                          https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                                          @infobeautiful

                                          Fascinating, thanks!

                                          Here's obligatory link to great bit from TV's "The West Wing." Where cartographers compare Mercator versus Peters projections for stunned C.J. and Josh.

                                          The head map guy is played with perfect drollery by the invaluable John Billingsley (Star Trek: Enterprise; The Man from Earth, etc.).

                                          Cartographer: "Nothing's where you think it is."
                                          C.J: "Where is it?"
                                          Cartographer: "I'm glad you asked…"

                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Xyz9MgDWA

                                          #Maps #TV #Imperialism #Cartography

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