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  3. Someone tried to burn down a warehouse in Kansas City that ICE wanted to buy for its concentration camp system.

Someone tried to burn down a warehouse in Kansas City that ICE wanted to buy for its concentration camp system.

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  • HeavenlyPossumH HeavenlyPossum

    Someone tried to burn down a warehouse in Kansas City that ICE wanted to buy for its concentration camp system.

    This person is now being hunted by police and will be arrested and prosecuted for a crime if caught.

    If someone had burned down Auschwitz during its construction, that person would be remembered by history as a hero.

    Matilda LoveM This user is from outside of this forum
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    @HeavenlyPossum i know them, they and i were hanging out at the library when it happened

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    • 2xfoR 2xfo

      @uc @HeavenlyPossum
      I guess maybe that's the difference between abiding and enforcing. Not all laws need to be enforced, and if you want people to abide the law you really shouldn't try to enforce all the laws all the time

      Chris Real_ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @RnDanger @uc @HeavenlyPossum

      This is a deeply concerning sentiment that I take very seriously, because there's a whole world of thought and philosophy that is affected by this approach to looking at law in society.

      You want a just system, but the system shouldn't be twisted against itself (as it is NOW) through pentest-level attacks on its 'good faith' deficencies.

      It's said the Founding Fathers were mostly under 30, and mostly drunk or nursing hangovers when they wrote the constitution. They were all in it together, and not thinking about insidious sociopaths.

      There's something about your understanding about abiding and enforcing that has not previously been considered. We depend on juries for course correction, but it's not settled law, it's just one decision after much long deliberation.

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      • HeavenlyPossumH HeavenlyPossum

        Someone tried to burn down a warehouse in Kansas City that ICE wanted to buy for its concentration camp system.

        This person is now being hunted by police and will be arrested and prosecuted for a crime if caught.

        If someone had burned down Auschwitz during its construction, that person would be remembered by history as a hero.

        HappyCrow13H This user is from outside of this forum
        HappyCrow13H This user is from outside of this forum
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        @HeavenlyPossum May the next fires lit be successful.

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        • HeavenlyPossumH HeavenlyPossum

          Someone tried to burn down a warehouse in Kansas City that ICE wanted to buy for its concentration camp system.

          This person is now being hunted by police and will be arrested and prosecuted for a crime if caught.

          If someone had burned down Auschwitz during its construction, that person would be remembered by history as a hero.

          tessaraktT This user is from outside of this forum
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          @HeavenlyPossum #jurynullification

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          • Urban CameraU Urban Camera

            @HeavenlyPossum

            Revered by law-abiding citizens, yes, but they are being hunted down by a group far closer to the Nazis who ran Auschwitz. Law-abiding citizens will, of course, help the right-thinking arsonist to remain free.

            HeavenlyPossumH This user is from outside of this forum
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            @uc

            In this case, crime is the correct thing to do, because law and morality are two radically different phenomena.

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            • HeavenlyPossumH HeavenlyPossum

              @uc

              In this case, crime is the correct thing to do, because law and morality are two radically different phenomena.

              Urban CameraU This user is from outside of this forum
              Urban CameraU This user is from outside of this forum
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              @HeavenlyPossum

              Interesting that people seem to believe I am talking about anything but the moral law.

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              • Urban CameraU Urban Camera

                @HeavenlyPossum

                Interesting that people seem to believe I am talking about anything but the moral law.

                Paw-1|426P This user is from outside of this forum
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                @uc

                I think the issue is the use of the word "law". Laws are a set of rules enforced by an authority, while morality is a set of personal and/or agreed upon, case by case judgements seeking to minimise harm. Thus, talking about "moral law" is at best confusing, at worst contradictory.

                I believe it's best to use each word separately.

                @HeavenlyPossum

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                • HeavenlyPossumH HeavenlyPossum

                  Someone tried to burn down a warehouse in Kansas City that ICE wanted to buy for its concentration camp system.

                  This person is now being hunted by police and will be arrested and prosecuted for a crime if caught.

                  If someone had burned down Auschwitz during its construction, that person would be remembered by history as a hero.

                  The Orange ThemeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @HeavenlyPossum She's a fucking hero and a patriot. History will remember her bravery and courage. ❤️ (Not that anybody saw nothin', of course. She was at my house. We were watching the hit 1964 Stanley Kubrick film "Dr. Strangelove", and then discussing it until 2:00 AM.)

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                  • 2xfoR 2xfo

                    @uc @HeavenlyPossum
                    I guess maybe that's the difference between abiding and enforcing. Not all laws need to be enforced, and if you want people to abide the law you really shouldn't try to enforce all the laws all the time

                    :ulfr:U This user is from outside of this forum
                    :ulfr:U This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @RnDanger When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. All the atrocities ever committed were "legal" while acting as a human being was considered a crime. I don't wipe my ass with such law, I shit on it. @uc @HeavenlyPossum

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                    • HappyCrow13H HappyCrow13

                      @HeavenlyPossum May the next fires lit be successful.

                      Morgan ⚧️R This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @HappyCrow13 @HeavenlyPossum this one was! The building wasn't burnt down, but it doesn't really have to be 🤷 the contract was cancelled, and I'd say preventing a concentration camp from opening is pretty much as successful as one can get

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