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  3. I see garbage text on the tower in the centre, indicating it's AI-generated slop imagery, and I instantly assume any code from this soi-disant IDE will be as full of mistakes as the marketing graphics.

I see garbage text on the tower in the centre, indicating it's AI-generated slop imagery, and I instantly assume any code from this soi-disant IDE will be as full of mistakes as the marketing graphics.

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  • Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
    Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
    Charlie Stross
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    RE: https://furry.engineer/@talisyn/116029594929462963

    I see garbage text on the tower in the centre, indicating it's AI-generated slop imagery, and I instantly assume any code from this soi-disant IDE will be as full of mistakes as the marketing graphics.

    Michael RobertsV labriaL Jim JonesG Talisyn TailfeatherT J 6 Replies Last reply
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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      RE: https://furry.engineer/@talisyn/116029594929462963

      I see garbage text on the tower in the centre, indicating it's AI-generated slop imagery, and I instantly assume any code from this soi-disant IDE will be as full of mistakes as the marketing graphics.

      Michael RobertsV This user is from outside of this forum
      Michael RobertsV This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cstross Oh, Charlie. It's far far worse than you imagine. It's not an IDE; it's an entire Russian-doll stack of workflows populated by LLM coding agents.

      As art, it's mindboggling. As engineering, well, it's mindboggling.

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      • Michael RobertsV Michael Roberts

        @cstross Oh, Charlie. It's far far worse than you imagine. It's not an IDE; it's an entire Russian-doll stack of workflows populated by LLM coding agents.

        As art, it's mindboggling. As engineering, well, it's mindboggling.

        Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
        Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @vivtek The engineering is mind-boggling in the same way the original Tay Bridge was mind-boggling (especially to William McGonagall).

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          @vivtek The engineering is mind-boggling in the same way the original Tay Bridge was mind-boggling (especially to William McGonagall).

          Michael RobertsV This user is from outside of this forum
          Michael RobertsV This user is from outside of this forum
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          @cstross Exactly that.

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          • Michael RobertsV Michael Roberts

            @cstross Exactly that.

            Michael RobertsV This user is from outside of this forum
            Michael RobertsV This user is from outside of this forum
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            @cstross Maybe it would have been more apt to say that as art it's mindboggling, while as engineering it's more like mindFLAYing.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              RE: https://furry.engineer/@talisyn/116029594929462963

              I see garbage text on the tower in the centre, indicating it's AI-generated slop imagery, and I instantly assume any code from this soi-disant IDE will be as full of mistakes as the marketing graphics.

              labriaL This user is from outside of this forum
              labriaL This user is from outside of this forum
              labria
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              @cstross @talisyn oh, it will be! And they know and don’t care. They’ll fix ask the Mayor to fix the obvious stuff and go on.
              Software enshittification is upon us…

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                RE: https://furry.engineer/@talisyn/116029594929462963

                I see garbage text on the tower in the centre, indicating it's AI-generated slop imagery, and I instantly assume any code from this soi-disant IDE will be as full of mistakes as the marketing graphics.

                Jim JonesG This user is from outside of this forum
                Jim JonesG This user is from outside of this forum
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                @cstross having read through this, I can see why it is ridiculously expensive for him to run. It requiring two Claude Code accounts now with a projected third is... interesting. Running this project must light money on fire.

                I can't imagine what the cost to Anthropulic for this one user is.

                This article is from July:

                ' “But a few outlying cases are very costly to support. For example, one user consumed tens of thousands in model usage on a $200 plan.” '

                🔥 💶 🔥

                https://futurism.com/anthropic-users-melt-down-usage

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                • Jim JonesG Jim Jones

                  @cstross having read through this, I can see why it is ridiculously expensive for him to run. It requiring two Claude Code accounts now with a projected third is... interesting. Running this project must light money on fire.

                  I can't imagine what the cost to Anthropulic for this one user is.

                  This article is from July:

                  ' “But a few outlying cases are very costly to support. For example, one user consumed tens of thousands in model usage on a $200 plan.” '

                  🔥 💶 🔥

                  https://futurism.com/anthropic-users-melt-down-usage

                  SimplyTheGuestS This user is from outside of this forum
                  SimplyTheGuestS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @cstross @GreatBigTable oh, don't worry, the crypto grifters minted a coin for him so now he has extra money to light on fire. Here's a sober review of the whole situation https://maggieappleton.com/gastown

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    RE: https://furry.engineer/@talisyn/116029594929462963

                    I see garbage text on the tower in the centre, indicating it's AI-generated slop imagery, and I instantly assume any code from this soi-disant IDE will be as full of mistakes as the marketing graphics.

                    Talisyn TailfeatherT This user is from outside of this forum
                    Talisyn TailfeatherT This user is from outside of this forum
                    Talisyn Tailfeather
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                    @cstross Reading through Stevie's article, I can't tell if this is brilliant genius, performance art that went off the rails, biting parody, or incipient schizophrenia. Maybe all of the above?

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                    • Talisyn TailfeatherT Talisyn Tailfeather

                      @cstross Reading through Stevie's article, I can't tell if this is brilliant genius, performance art that went off the rails, biting parody, or incipient schizophrenia. Maybe all of the above?

                      Gracious AnthraciteA This user is from outside of this forum
                      Gracious AnthraciteA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @talisyn @cstross

                      Yeah that was my response to reading about Gas Town for the first time too, I’m sure he’s constantly being glazed by all this layered AI telling him every change is a GREAT IDEA.

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        RE: https://furry.engineer/@talisyn/116029594929462963

                        I see garbage text on the tower in the centre, indicating it's AI-generated slop imagery, and I instantly assume any code from this soi-disant IDE will be as full of mistakes as the marketing graphics.

                        J This user is from outside of this forum
                        J This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @cstross

                        Aha! Apparently, like every sideshow spiritualist, medium, and psychic has said, the presence of doubters will spoil the thing and stop it working. Only doubt-free people may cross the palm with cryptocurrency.

                        So: This Gas Town …

                        … I suspect that we know what sort of lighting it uses.

                        #AIslop #VibeCoding #GasTown #ComputerProgramming

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                        • Gracious AnthraciteA Gracious Anthracite

                          @talisyn @cstross

                          Yeah that was my response to reading about Gas Town for the first time too, I’m sure he’s constantly being glazed by all this layered AI telling him every change is a GREAT IDEA.

                          Talisyn TailfeatherT This user is from outside of this forum
                          Talisyn TailfeatherT This user is from outside of this forum
                          Talisyn Tailfeather
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                          @anthracite @cstross But it's good to compare & contrast to @simon post today about fully automated coding at StrongDM:

                          https://fedi.simonwillison.net/@simon/116030108431644256

                          Their approach seems slightly more ... sane ... than Stevie's. And they are *making it work*.

                          Inefficient? Surely. Potentially error-prone? Yep. Deeply unsettling? Very much so.

                          But shit like this would have been considered *impossible* just six months ago. And the one of the first principles of software engineering is to get it working first, and worry about optimization later.

                          We dismiss these technologies at our own peril. This future is happening *now*, like it or not.

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            RE: https://furry.engineer/@talisyn/116029594929462963

                            I see garbage text on the tower in the centre, indicating it's AI-generated slop imagery, and I instantly assume any code from this soi-disant IDE will be as full of mistakes as the marketing graphics.

                            MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
                            MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @cstross didn't even need to look at the text. Piss filter... Just has The Look

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