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What is Bonesmashing?

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    @cstross When a subculture runs out of symbolic rebellion, it often turns to the body. Looksmaxxing is less about attractiveness than about optimization under perceived scarcity. Bonesmashing is what happens when algorithmic aesthetics meet masculine insecurity and low trust in institutions. This isnโ€™t vanity, I think. Feels more like young men attempting to brute-force status in an economy that feels rigged.

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    @Doomscroll @cstross
    Self-harming behaviour isn't best analysed through the lenses of vanity or politics, probably.

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      @Doomscroll It *is* rigged, but hitting yourself in the face with a hammer isn't going to induce the billionaire oligopoly to share any of its stolen valor with you.

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      @cstross @Doomscroll oh yeah?? We'll see about that Mr. Knowitall! *smashes face with hammer*

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        @Doomscroll It *is* rigged, but hitting yourself in the face with a hammer isn't going to induce the billionaire oligopoly to share any of its stolen valor with you.

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        @cstross Elite capture isnโ€™t new. In 19th-century German universities, young men carved sabre scars into their faces as proof of status(stolen valor). Now the stolen valor is proximity: influencers orbiting power, sometimes crossing into it. Clavicular at the party, then at the policy table. Spectacle is now access. 21st century is weird, and weโ€™re only a quarter of a way into it.

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          What is Bonesmashing? Inside the Extreme Looksmaxxer Technique

          As looksmaxxing enters our lexicon, the practice of bonesmashingโ€”tapping your face with a hammer to shape your bone structureโ€”is trailing close behind.

          โ€œBonesmashing is big enough that doctors have sent at least two letters to the Journal of Stomatology, Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery warning about the practiceโ€™s spread on social media.โ€

          https://www.gq.com/story/what-is-bonesmashing-looksmaxxing-technique

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          @cstross I learned about this practice this morning on the โ€˜The Rest is Entertainmentโ€™ podcast. Honestly, the next big meteor strike canโ€™t come a moment too soon.

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            @cstross @Doomscroll oh yeah?? We'll see about that Mr. Knowitall! *smashes face with hammer*

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            @dinozombie
            Take THAT, Elon!
            @cstross @Doomscroll

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              @Doomscroll @cstross
              Self-harming behaviour isn't best analysed through the lenses of vanity or politics, probably.

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              @petealexharris

              mental health and political circumstances are deeply intertwined, particularly when political-economic conditions induce specific inhumane circumstances.

              (mark fisher analyzes this pretty deeply in various books of his, and is worth reading for his insights here.)

              @Doomscroll @cstross

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                @cstross Elite capture isnโ€™t new. In 19th-century German universities, young men carved sabre scars into their faces as proof of status(stolen valor). Now the stolen valor is proximity: influencers orbiting power, sometimes crossing into it. Clavicular at the party, then at the policy table. Spectacle is now access. 21st century is weird, and weโ€™re only a quarter of a way into it.

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                @Doomscroll @cstross Some young men at German universities still carve their faces with sabres.

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                  @petealexharris

                  mental health and political circumstances are deeply intertwined, particularly when political-economic conditions induce specific inhumane circumstances.

                  (mark fisher analyzes this pretty deeply in various books of his, and is worth reading for his insights here.)

                  @Doomscroll @cstross

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                  @enkiv2 @Doomscroll @cstross
                  No doubt. But if people were calling anorexia "ribsmaxxing" I'd be side-eying that too.

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    What is Bonesmashing? Inside the Extreme Looksmaxxer Technique

                    As looksmaxxing enters our lexicon, the practice of bonesmashingโ€”tapping your face with a hammer to shape your bone structureโ€”is trailing close behind.

                    โ€œBonesmashing is big enough that doctors have sent at least two letters to the Journal of Stomatology, Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery warning about the practiceโ€™s spread on social media.โ€

                    https://www.gq.com/story/what-is-bonesmashing-looksmaxxing-technique

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                    @cstross
                    /me checks date.
                    Damn it people!

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                      @enkiv2 @Doomscroll @cstross
                      No doubt. But if people were calling anorexia "ribsmaxxing" I'd be side-eying that too.

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                      @petealexharris

                      I think anorexia nervosa is a pretty good comparison to be honest. From what I understand, the consensus has softened a bit since I was paying close attention, but it used to be that anorexia nervosa (in its classic Karen Carpenter manifestation) was widely understood as a response to political-economic pressures.

                      Some mental illness is fully organic in origin -- stemming from genetics or injury -- but a lot of it is the direct result of interacting with an inhumane environment. The three causes are not mutually exclusive, and mental illness caused by one can cause or exacerbate that caused by another. This appears to quite certainly be the third case -- interacting with an inhuman environment (the modern world) has produced inhumane pressures (these guys think they are worthless if they don't have sufficiently sharp cheekbones), and the inhumaneness of the world is a political problem (arguably, it is the only political problem, and all other political problems stem from flawed attempts to solve it).

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                        @petealexharris

                        I think anorexia nervosa is a pretty good comparison to be honest. From what I understand, the consensus has softened a bit since I was paying close attention, but it used to be that anorexia nervosa (in its classic Karen Carpenter manifestation) was widely understood as a response to political-economic pressures.

                        Some mental illness is fully organic in origin -- stemming from genetics or injury -- but a lot of it is the direct result of interacting with an inhumane environment. The three causes are not mutually exclusive, and mental illness caused by one can cause or exacerbate that caused by another. This appears to quite certainly be the third case -- interacting with an inhuman environment (the modern world) has produced inhumane pressures (these guys think they are worthless if they don't have sufficiently sharp cheekbones), and the inhumaneness of the world is a political problem (arguably, it is the only political problem, and all other political problems stem from flawed attempts to solve it).

                        @Doomscroll @cstross

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                        @petealexharris

                        (before anybody gets up my ass: yes, I know Karen Carpenter was bulemic. iirc she was also anorexic? but the whole world kind of understood eating disorders through the lens of what happened to her, for a long time, and her case neatly fits a model that I've seen people take seriously as far back as the mid-70s and as late as 2010.)

                        @Doomscroll @cstross

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                          What is Bonesmashing? Inside the Extreme Looksmaxxer Technique

                          As looksmaxxing enters our lexicon, the practice of bonesmashingโ€”tapping your face with a hammer to shape your bone structureโ€”is trailing close behind.

                          โ€œBonesmashing is big enough that doctors have sent at least two letters to the Journal of Stomatology, Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery warning about the practiceโ€™s spread on social media.โ€

                          https://www.gq.com/story/what-is-bonesmashing-looksmaxxing-technique

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                          @cstross what the actual fuck did I just read

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                            @petealexharris

                            (before anybody gets up my ass: yes, I know Karen Carpenter was bulemic. iirc she was also anorexic? but the whole world kind of understood eating disorders through the lens of what happened to her, for a long time, and her case neatly fits a model that I've seen people take seriously as far back as the mid-70s and as late as 2010.)

                            @Doomscroll @cstross

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                            @petealexharris

                            With regard to terminology:

                            looksmaxxing is the term used in the community of people who encourage each other to do this form of self harm. I try not to learn any of the bizarre and upsetting terminology used by pro-ana online communities, but there's plenty of it!

                            @Doomscroll @cstross

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                              What is Bonesmashing? Inside the Extreme Looksmaxxer Technique

                              As looksmaxxing enters our lexicon, the practice of bonesmashingโ€”tapping your face with a hammer to shape your bone structureโ€”is trailing close behind.

                              โ€œBonesmashing is big enough that doctors have sent at least two letters to the Journal of Stomatology, Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery warning about the practiceโ€™s spread on social media.โ€

                              https://www.gq.com/story/what-is-bonesmashing-looksmaxxing-technique

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                              @cstross Darwin awards material.

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                                What is Bonesmashing? Inside the Extreme Looksmaxxer Technique

                                As looksmaxxing enters our lexicon, the practice of bonesmashingโ€”tapping your face with a hammer to shape your bone structureโ€”is trailing close behind.

                                โ€œBonesmashing is big enough that doctors have sent at least two letters to the Journal of Stomatology, Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery warning about the practiceโ€™s spread on social media.โ€

                                https://www.gq.com/story/what-is-bonesmashing-looksmaxxing-technique

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                                @cstross Humans were a mistake.

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  @Doomscroll It *is* rigged, but hitting yourself in the face with a hammer isn't going to induce the billionaire oligopoly to share any of its stolen valor with you.

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                                  @cstross @Doomscroll Retrophrenology is next.

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                                    @mark @cstross yeah, probably not.... but bones do strengten under stress, just like muscles... and that is why kids jump and stomp around... to get "shocks" is important for the bone growth and density. Also reason why space travel is tricky. Hammer to the jaw... well...

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