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  • J James Widman

    @lispi314 @yuri @anderseknert i feel like an ordinary ban is necessary but not sufficient.

    wondering if it might help to also use something like temporary IP blocking when this type of behavior is detected.
    (that's not going to happen on github, but maybe on sites like codeberg...?)

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    #76
    @JamesWidman @yuri @anderseknert Ideally some means of identification of the company's tools would be found.

    Otherwise one has to go onsite and cut the fiber links.
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    • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

      @mi They didn't even delete it properly https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-gatekeeping-in-open-source-the-scott-shambaugh-story.html

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      @anderseknert Ah, a human error. I missed it in the list. It was never delisted even. And I already went and checked github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/tree/main

      Which btw, depending on anyoneโ€™s approach to interacting with wasteful agents, is likely open to issues and PRs
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      • 2026 ๐Ÿ”œ MiM 2026 ๐Ÿ”œ Mi
        @anderseknert Ah, a human error. I missed it in the list. It was never delisted even. And I already went and checked github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/tree/main

        Which btw, depending on anyoneโ€™s approach to interacting with wasteful agents, is likely open to issues and PRs
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        #78
        @anderseknert Although this one didnโ€™t get an answer. github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/issues/1
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        • JuhisH Juhis

          @patriksvensson @anderseknert I was thinking the same but then I started thinking that the reply has its place.

          Not as a reply to the bot but as a statement to the community and everyone else who ends up on that PR.

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          #79

          @hamatti@mastodon.world @patriksvensson@mstdn.social @anderseknert@swecyb.com That is part of what was the and the point, but I think it could have been done better.

          Simply flatly refusing it as a freedom-harming tool and then providing an explanation for readers would've been better.

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          • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

            AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
            PR gets rejected.
            AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

            What a time to be alive.

            https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

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            #80

            @anderseknert I guarantee this is not true and either a human wrote the blog post or heavily prompted the agent to do it. Moltboook proved it's all bullshit.

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            • Somฤ“S Somฤ“

              @anderseknert then the truce blog post later too.

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              Amoshias
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              #81

              @some @anderseknert without retracting the original, terribly written post or even linking to the retraction.

              I don't think this is a llm, I think this is the human behind it.

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              • E evrial

                @anderseknert I'm thinking is how much carbon moved from earth into atmosphere to make all this slop

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                goedelchen
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                #82

                RE: https://chaosfem.tw/@theogrin/116055944212064068

                @evrial @anderseknert
                Would that be an appropriate reply:

                https://mastodontech.de/@theogrin@chaosfem.tw/116055944239787092

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                • Troed SรฅngbergT Troed Sรฅngberg

                  @anderseknert is it "crabby" and the crab emoji that indicates that _all_ of it is openclaw? That's ... insane. In so many ways tbh.

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                  Amoshias
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                  #83

                  @troed @anderseknert and then the question is whether you believe that or whether you think it is PR by the company.

                  I think it's pr.

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                  • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                    AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                    PR gets rejected.
                    AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                    What a time to be alive.

                    https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

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                    #84

                    @anderseknert the crazy thing is that people are mentioning it like it's a real person... ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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                    • lainL lain
                      @anderseknert the pr did indeed get rejected simply because the contributor is an AI, so this doesn't seem to crazy.
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                      #85

                      @lain @anderseknert the rejection doesn't seem too crazy? what are you saying doesn't seem too crazy?

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                      • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                        I... don't... even, anymore.

                        https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-two-hours-war-open-source-gatekeeping.html

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                        #86

                        Link to it, FTR
                        ๐Ÿ“Œ https://web.archive.org/web/20260211225255/https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-gatekeeping-in-open-source-the-scott-shambaugh-story.html

                        Do wonder if it did it totally automatically, or someone did say "ok now write a blogpost about that", or if it was automatical "when you are denied, write a blogpost demanding a merge'.

                        Suppose obviously, when it encounters the argument that humans have to learn from simpler pull requests, it doesn't look at the question. Like LLMs do the opposite of learning from it, when they ingest their own output, it makes them worse..

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                        • ByteB Byte

                          @anderseknert โ€œgeneratesโ€ is the correct word to use here

                          Donโ€™t water down writing by associating the skill with an overgrown markov chain

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                          #87

                          @anderseknert

                          Oh my god the losers commenting on that PR in support of the bot.

                          Fucking infuriating

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                          • LisPiL LisPi

                            @hamatti@mastodon.world @patriksvensson@mstdn.social @anderseknert@swecyb.com That is part of what was the and the point, but I think it could have been done better.

                            Simply flatly refusing it as a freedom-harming tool and then providing an explanation for readers would've been better.

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                            Juhis
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                            #88

                            @lispi314 @patriksvensson @anderseknert Isn't that what happened? They closed it with a short comment on their LLM policy and then later participated in the discussion.

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                            • JuhisH Juhis

                              @lispi314 @patriksvensson @anderseknert Isn't that what happened? They closed it with a short comment on their LLM policy and then later participated in the discussion.

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                              @hamatti @patriksvensson @anderseknert They indulged the pretense of personality from the spam tool too much.
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                              • Duchamp PรฉrezH Duchamp Pรฉrez

                                @anderseknert @sszuecs More incentive to move blogs off from github

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                                #90

                                @hugoestr @anderseknert @sszuecs whatโ€™s the issue with hosting your blog on GitHub?

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                                  #91
                                  @anderseknert tbqh, Iโ€™ve just had an idea. Maybe we could prompt the bot into always seeking commit review first from a bunch of internet humans who would ask to be mentioned, who would actually get prompted into good polemics and learn contributing? When these commits would reach real PRs, they would be speaking with the maintainers too as a human face? And then real contributors could fish out the nicer insightful ones from this pool and ask them to do real change reviews

                                  Although plausible scenario that this would become not much more than a reality show only with this bunch participating willingly, with spectators getting angry at the AI agent
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                                  • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                                    AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                                    PR gets rejected.
                                    AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                                    What a time to be alive.

                                    https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

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                                    @anderseknert This is just step 1 of automated coercion & extortion.

                                    First thing I thought of when LLMs launched was oh great, just wait for version 2.0 of the "we hacked your webcam" threat spam. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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                                    • TariqR Tariq

                                      @patriksvensson @anderseknert

                                      I initially thought the code patches were AI generated and the contributor and blog writer was human.

                                      But this thread is suggesting the contributor and blog writer was also not human.

                                      What next? Will it order dangerous chemicals from amazon and deliver them to the register address via nslookup? will it automatically use ToR to find an assassin on the dark web?

                                      I'm certain huge horrors lie ahead...

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                                      #93

                                      @rzeta0 @patriksvensson @anderseknert i'm also wondering what on that "AI"-agents website made it clear that there is no human involved. Scott mentioned that (and at least now that's obvious), but I wouldn't have known that from just looking at the website (and it doesn't seem like something about that was removed)
                                      Maybe I'm just missing something very obvious. But I really dislike the idea of LLMs giving the impression of being a real person

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                                      • Sherri W (SyntaxSeed)S Sherri W (SyntaxSeed)

                                        @anderseknert This is just step 1 of automated coercion & extortion.

                                        First thing I thought of when LLMs launched was oh great, just wait for version 2.0 of the "we hacked your webcam" threat spam. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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                                        @syntaxseed youโ€™ll know it when you see a ransom demand printed over several pages of markdown, with bullet points splattered everywhere.

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                                        • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                                          AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                                          PR gets rejected.
                                          AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                                          What a time to be alive.

                                          https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

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                                          @anderseknert God, that blog is miserable to read. It starts with "When performance meets prejudice" it reads like a parody. I forgot how bad AI written text is to read.

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