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There is zero future for the internal combustion engine but only the US auto industry, manipulated by Trump, is failing to acknowledge that.

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  • Peter GleickP This user is from outside of this forum
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    There is zero future for the internal combustion engine but only the US auto industry, manipulated by Trump, is failing to acknowledge that. This will cripple US auto production for decades, ceding the EV market to China and others.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/01/ev-pullback-factories-jobs-south.html

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    • Peter GleickP Peter Gleick

      There is zero future for the internal combustion engine but only the US auto industry, manipulated by Trump, is failing to acknowledge that. This will cripple US auto production for decades, ceding the EV market to China and others.
      https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/01/ev-pullback-factories-jobs-south.html

      KonradK This user is from outside of this forum
      KonradK This user is from outside of this forum
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      @petergleick No, it’s not just the US. Germany is firmly in that camp, too.

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      • Peter GleickP Peter Gleick

        There is zero future for the internal combustion engine but only the US auto industry, manipulated by Trump, is failing to acknowledge that. This will cripple US auto production for decades, ceding the EV market to China and others.
        https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/01/ev-pullback-factories-jobs-south.html

        Hanno ZullaH This user is from outside of this forum
        Hanno ZullaH This user is from outside of this forum
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        @petergleick You wouldn't believe what the German chancellor and his governing conservative party are trying to do.

        https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/verkehrspolitik-koalition-e-mobilitaet-verbrenner-100.html

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        • Hanno ZullaH Hanno Zulla

          @petergleick You wouldn't believe what the German chancellor and his governing conservative party are trying to do.

          https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/verkehrspolitik-koalition-e-mobilitaet-verbrenner-100.html

          NcoinfoN This user is from outside of this forum
          NcoinfoN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @hzulla @petergleick Which is a double mistake for us (as Europe), given that we have no oil and have to buy it at high prices from countries that do not share our democratic values.

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          • Hanno ZullaH Hanno Zulla

            @petergleick You wouldn't believe what the German chancellor and his governing conservative party are trying to do.

            https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/verkehrspolitik-koalition-e-mobilitaet-verbrenner-100.html

            Emma needs ☕️ and paying workE This user is from outside of this forum
            Emma needs ☕️ and paying workE This user is from outside of this forum
            Emma needs ☕️ and paying work
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            @hzulla @petergleick maybe the voters are all fucking morons.

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            • Peter GleickP Peter Gleick

              There is zero future for the internal combustion engine but only the US auto industry, manipulated by Trump, is failing to acknowledge that. This will cripple US auto production for decades, ceding the EV market to China and others.
              https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/01/ev-pullback-factories-jobs-south.html

              bkK This user is from outside of this forum
              bkK This user is from outside of this forum
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              @petergleick
              Pushing the money off the table instead of pocketing it…

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              • NcoinfoN Ncoinfo

                @hzulla @petergleick Which is a double mistake for us (as Europe), given that we have no oil and have to buy it at high prices from countries that do not share our democratic values.

                Eggs now in different baskets.T This user is from outside of this forum
                Eggs now in different baskets.T This user is from outside of this forum
                Eggs now in different baskets.
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                @ncoinfo @hzulla @petergleick Cough!!

                Whilst I agree broadly that developing home grown EVs is a good idea, I am of the opinion that Norway and the UK, generally share (at least as a concept) the democratic values that Europe as a whole aspires to.

                What I didn't know until now are that there are other European countries that produce crude oil:

                https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-top-oil-producing-nations-in-europe.html

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                • Peter GleickP Peter Gleick

                  There is zero future for the internal combustion engine but only the US auto industry, manipulated by Trump, is failing to acknowledge that. This will cripple US auto production for decades, ceding the EV market to China and others.
                  https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/01/ev-pullback-factories-jobs-south.html

                  Eggs now in different baskets.T This user is from outside of this forum
                  Eggs now in different baskets.T This user is from outside of this forum
                  Eggs now in different baskets.
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                  @petergleick This has already happened.

                  Musk is clearly losing the ball with Tesla with Tesla now having been passed by BYD as the company producing most EVs and passed by a long margin.

                  Other US vehicle manufacturers have cut back EV production, stopped making products (Ford F-150 EV) and/or are struggling to sell their products.

                  If the USA continues to retreat into the post truth kingdom phase of empire then ICE vehicles will continue to be built there until oil production in the US stops.

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                  • Hanno ZullaH Hanno Zulla

                    @petergleick You wouldn't believe what the German chancellor and his governing conservative party are trying to do.

                    https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/verkehrspolitik-koalition-e-mobilitaet-verbrenner-100.html

                    VegOSV This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @hzulla @petergleick If I had money I would sue him because we have a right for health and air quality would be much better with electric cars only.
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                    • Eggs now in different baskets.T Eggs now in different baskets.

                      @ncoinfo @hzulla @petergleick Cough!!

                      Whilst I agree broadly that developing home grown EVs is a good idea, I am of the opinion that Norway and the UK, generally share (at least as a concept) the democratic values that Europe as a whole aspires to.

                      What I didn't know until now are that there are other European countries that produce crude oil:

                      https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-top-oil-producing-nations-in-europe.html

                      NcoinfoN This user is from outside of this forum
                      NcoinfoN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @the_wub @hzulla @petergleick Oops, I forgot Norway, mea culpa.
                      Anyway, it remains a small producer and cannot make Europe sovereign in terms of oil production.
                      Most of our consumption is actually imported from the Middle East (or worst Russia).
                      (As for the UK, no offence, i love this country ans his people, but since Brexit, they are no longer really part of Europe).

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