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i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

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  • ElricE This user is from outside of this forum
    ElricE This user is from outside of this forum
    Elric
    wrote last edited by
    #17

    @frankdelporte @b0rk +1 for hugo, but I run it in a container with a fixed (and now ancient) version because they aren't as backwards-compatible as I'd sometimes like...

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    • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

      i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

      - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
      - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
      - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

      i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

      markwalkerM This user is from outside of this forum
      markwalkerM This user is from outside of this forum
      markwalker
      wrote last edited by
      #18

      @b0rk I feel the same way. I also want it to cost as little as possible and be easy for me to create content. Like content from my phone would be a win.

      Currently I have an unmaintained netlify project running gatsby because at one point in time it was easy to add markdown files to a repo and have dependabot keep it updated.

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      • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

        @tedmielczarek what kinds of frameworks do you mean? i feel like I use a lot of "technologies" to build my sites, for example on my latest project I'm using S3, a Dockerfile, a managed deployment service, GitHub Actions, and probably more things.

        definitely gauging what is worth it and what isn't can get complicated and sometimes I try a new thing and decide it isn't worth the complexity

        Ted MielczarekT This user is from outside of this forum
        Ted MielczarekT This user is from outside of this forum
        Ted Mielczarek
        wrote last edited by
        #19

        @b0rk I'm primarily thinking about frameworks like React here, which seem to only work well for companies who can dedicate staff to wrangle the complexity.

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        • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

          i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

          - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
          - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
          - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

          i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

          Dimitri KokkonisP This user is from outside of this forum
          Dimitri KokkonisP This user is from outside of this forum
          Dimitri Kokkonis
          wrote last edited by
          #20

          @b0rk fwiw this is exactly why I made https://github.com/kokkonisd/mrbones

          I wanna make the site not fight the site generator

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          • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

            i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

            - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
            - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
            - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

            i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

            AA This user is from outside of this forum
            AA This user is from outside of this forum
            A
            wrote last edited by
            #21

            @b0rk@social.jvns.ca my answer would be vanilla js (or maybe jquery at most), I’m curious what is yours

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            • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

              i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

              - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
              - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
              - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

              i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

              Billy SmithB This user is from outside of this forum
              Billy SmithB This user is from outside of this forum
              Billy Smith
              wrote last edited by
              #22

              @b0rk

              You may want to chat with @coopcloud @autonomic and @kawaiipunk about the techstack you are using. πŸ˜„

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              • Madame Pres commandasaurus πŸ¦–A Madame Pres commandasaurus πŸ¦–

                @adriano @b0rk I would also like to purchase this, please and thank you πŸ’–

                Billy SmithB This user is from outside of this forum
                Billy SmithB This user is from outside of this forum
                Billy Smith
                wrote last edited by
                #23

                @amcasari @adriano @b0rk

                This me also.

                Alternatively, we could sponsor you to write your version of these manuals:

                https://flossmanuals.net/

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                • Dimitri KokkonisP Dimitri Kokkonis

                  @b0rk fwiw this is exactly why I made https://github.com/kokkonisd/mrbones

                  I wanna make the site not fight the site generator

                  dasgrueneblattD This user is from outside of this forum
                  dasgrueneblattD This user is from outside of this forum
                  dasgrueneblatt
                  wrote last edited by
                  #24

                  @plumtrie @b0rk that looks nice

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                  • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

                    i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

                    - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
                    - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
                    - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

                    i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

                    Heath BordersH This user is from outside of this forum
                    Heath BordersH This user is from outside of this forum
                    Heath Borders
                    wrote last edited by
                    #25

                    @b0rk have you outlined what technical choices you've made as a result of these constraints? It feels almost like hand-writing simple HTML/CSS/JS would make sense here

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                    • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

                      i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

                      - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
                      - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
                      - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

                      i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

                      Deven PhillipsI This user is from outside of this forum
                      Deven PhillipsI This user is from outside of this forum
                      Deven Phillips
                      wrote last edited by
                      #26

                      @b0rk
                      @frankdelporte offers a good option. I also like #VitePress for customization of the CSS/HTML/JS and use it to run several similar sites myself. https://vitepress.dev/

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                      • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

                        i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

                        - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
                        - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
                        - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

                        i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

                        Adam Williamson :fedora:A This user is from outside of this forum
                        Adam Williamson :fedora:A This user is from outside of this forum
                        Adam Williamson :fedora:
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                        #27

                        @b0rk same!

                        I actually had to write myself a README file in the directory where my blog lives so I remember how to write a new post, when I come to do it once a year or so...πŸ˜†

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                        • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

                          i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

                          - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
                          - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
                          - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

                          i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

                          Karl DysonK This user is from outside of this forum
                          Karl DysonK This user is from outside of this forum
                          Karl Dyson
                          wrote last edited by
                          #28

                          @b0rk

                          I don't know that is necessarily dictates a different tech choice, but I think it dictates making sure it's documented / annotated sufficiently, including any and all stuff you use to automate the test/version control/build/deploy/patch/etc bits that sit around the sides of "it"...

                          Incomplete documentation and/or annotation is the #1 thing that bites me in the arse when I come back to something, personally speaking.

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                          • BredrollB This user is from outside of this forum
                            BredrollB This user is from outside of this forum
                            Bredroll
                            wrote last edited by
                            #29

                            @b0rk sqlite is brilliant! I didn't understand why more people don't use it until I realized that with #flask, using the builtin sqlite in #python that it doesn't support threading and concurrency properly!

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                            • Greg BellF This user is from outside of this forum
                              Greg BellF This user is from outside of this forum
                              Greg Bell
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                              #30

                              @eta @b0rk the laws of thermodynamics tell us the new hotness will become the old tepidity

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                              • SheogorathS This user is from outside of this forum
                                SheogorathS This user is from outside of this forum
                                Sheogorath
                                wrote last edited by
                                #31

                                @b0rk 2 more thoughts that haven't been touched on, but maybe make sense to mention:

                                - Make sure your theme brings all its JS, CSS and fonts with itself. (Independence from CDN disappearance)
                                - Use native HTML focused CSS frameworks like simplecss, because it makes porting content much easier.

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                                • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

                                  i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

                                  - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
                                  - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
                                  - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

                                  i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

                                  Gina WG This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Gina WG This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Gina W
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #32

                                  @b0rk I feel the same way about websites generally. Also about languages lately. Like, I feel like go has so much good about it but also I feel like it is a language I would have to be using full time to really write good go so I avoid using it.

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                                  • Adam Williamson :fedora:A Adam Williamson :fedora:

                                    @b0rk same!

                                    I actually had to write myself a README file in the directory where my blog lives so I remember how to write a new post, when I come to do it once a year or so...πŸ˜†

                                    Farce MajeureV This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Farce MajeureV This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Farce Majeure
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                                    #33

                                    @adamw @b0rk I wrote a Makefile for that.

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                                    • Neil KandalgaonkarN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Neil KandalgaonkarN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Neil Kandalgaonkar
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                                      #34

                                      @b0rk After I had a personal site sink into unmaintainability, I created a framework that I hope can work for more than a decade without any changes or updates

                                      The key was making every build step skippable. It’s all enhancement from basic HTML. If my syntax-colorer breaks in 2029 the site still builds

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                                      • Farce MajeureV Farce Majeure

                                        @adamw @b0rk I wrote a Makefile for that.

                                        Adam Williamson :fedora:A This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Adam Williamson :fedora:A This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Adam Williamson :fedora:
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                                        #35

                                        @vathpela @b0rk ...but then I'd need a README to remind me of the make arguments... πŸ˜‚

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                                        • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

                                          i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

                                          - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
                                          - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
                                          - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

                                          i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

                                          Joost van Baal-IlićJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Joost van Baal-IlićJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Joost van Baal-Ilić
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #36

                                          @b0rk imnsho your requirements are absolutely sane and not weird at all πŸ™‚

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