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  • Eloy.E This user is from outside of this forum
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    universities in the 1980s: writing the majority of internet standard RFCs and their implementations

    universities now: moving away from Microsoft cloud is really hard okay? 🥺

    HelmaH Ed BilodeauE 🌸 lily 🏳️‍⚧️ :flag_pansexual: :flag_ace: θΔ ⋐ & ∞T StéphanieS VER-1602W 6 Replies Last reply
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      universities in the 1980s: writing the majority of internet standard RFCs and their implementations

      universities now: moving away from Microsoft cloud is really hard okay? 🥺

      HelmaH This user is from outside of this forum
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      @eloy Yeah. Because you gotta want it.

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      • Eloy.E Eloy.

        universities in the 1980s: writing the majority of internet standard RFCs and their implementations

        universities now: moving away from Microsoft cloud is really hard okay? 🥺

        Ed BilodeauE This user is from outside of this forum
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        @eloy Efforts like this in the 80s were individual efforts, not organizationally driven. Individual on campuses today are still working to build a better world. And individuals on campuses are moving away from the MS stack (not me, mind you). But to make that change on an organizational level is a challenge of a different kind and order.

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        • Eloy.E Eloy.

          universities in the 1980s: writing the majority of internet standard RFCs and their implementations

          universities now: moving away from Microsoft cloud is really hard okay? 🥺

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          @eloy@hsnl.social im saying!!!!!!! i hate my chud ass uni trying to get me to use chat gpt and shit

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            @eloy@hsnl.social im saying!!!!!!! i hate my chud ass uni trying to get me to use chat gpt and shit

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            @eloy@hsnl.social they don't let you use clients with the stupid microsoft e-mail they have, you have to use outlook web app

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              @eloy@hsnl.social they don't let you use clients with the stupid microsoft e-mail they have, you have to use outlook web app

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              @tauon @eloy On some platforms, you can use the Outlook application instead of the web app. Not that that's meaningfully better.

              I really miss being able to use Thunderbird.

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                @eloy@hsnl.social they don't let you use clients with the stupid microsoft e-mail they have, you have to use outlook web app

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                @tauon @eloy@hsnl.social RELATABLE

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                • Ed BilodeauE Ed Bilodeau

                  @eloy Efforts like this in the 80s were individual efforts, not organizationally driven. Individual on campuses today are still working to build a better world. And individuals on campuses are moving away from the MS stack (not me, mind you). But to make that change on an organizational level is a challenge of a different kind and order.

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                  @edbilodeau @eloy

                  or we could say now that the organizational level overpower the individual one. Universities are gigantic structures sometimes for good reason and most of the time bad ones.

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                  • Donal FellowsD Donal Fellows

                    @tauon @eloy On some platforms, you can use the Outlook application instead of the web app. Not that that's meaningfully better.

                    I really miss being able to use Thunderbird.

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                    @dkf@cyberplace.social @eloy@hsnl.social there is no outlook app for linux, and for android, it requests admin access to my device before i can use it, so i removed the account, but it's stuck thinking it's still added so for 2fa i have to always select "text me" otherwise it tries to send a message to my nonexistant phone

                    tldr it's a clusterfuck and postfix + roundcube + gnumail are better

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                      @gelatin@social.translunar.academy @eloy@hsnl.social the evil new one (i think you can get the old old one by removing a known browser from the user agent, i don't remember if that still works and i don't remember if it was for the personal one or business(?) one)

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                      • Eloy.E Eloy.

                        universities in the 1980s: writing the majority of internet standard RFCs and their implementations

                        universities now: moving away from Microsoft cloud is really hard okay? 🥺

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                        @eloy@hsnl.social Researchers vs administration ​​

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                        • Eloy.E Eloy.

                          universities in the 1980s: writing the majority of internet standard RFCs and their implementations

                          universities now: moving away from Microsoft cloud is really hard okay? 🥺

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                          @eloy this one dropped several classes that used some kind of "test browser" that had zero Linux support. Several professors would say "it's ok, I give paper tests", some were bamboozled.

                          The bamboozlement is mostly from a handful of departments. You'd never guess which 😐

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                          • Ed BilodeauE Ed Bilodeau

                            @eloy Efforts like this in the 80s were individual efforts, not organizationally driven. Individual on campuses today are still working to build a better world. And individuals on campuses are moving away from the MS stack (not me, mind you). But to make that change on an organizational level is a challenge of a different kind and order.

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                            @edbilodeau @eloy not necessarily, and there has been efforts trying to be all-encompassing. For an example, I like to cite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Project

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                              @dkf@cyberplace.social @eloy@hsnl.social there is no outlook app for linux, and for android, it requests admin access to my device before i can use it, so i removed the account, but it's stuck thinking it's still added so for 2fa i have to always select "text me" otherwise it tries to send a message to my nonexistant phone

                              tldr it's a clusterfuck and postfix + roundcube + gnumail are better

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                              @tauon @eloy @dkf

                              To be honest, entire email system is more than a bit of a clusterfuck.

                              And Google and Microsoft didn't help with that.

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                                @tauon @eloy @dkf

                                To be honest, entire email system is more than a bit of a clusterfuck.

                                And Google and Microsoft didn't help with that.

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                                @ananas@scicomm.xyz @eloy@hsnl.social @dkf@cyberplace.social i still really like e-mail for some reason

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                                • Ed BilodeauE Ed Bilodeau

                                  @eloy Efforts like this in the 80s were individual efforts, not organizationally driven. Individual on campuses today are still working to build a better world. And individuals on campuses are moving away from the MS stack (not me, mind you). But to make that change on an organizational level is a challenge of a different kind and order.

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                                  @edbilodeau With you on this one. It's one thing to do something individually or as a small group; that's often quite doable. It's quite another matter to do it for thousands of people, or worse yet *convince* someone else (who doesn't really want to do it, sees it as introducing risk, etc.) to do it for potentially thousands of people.

                                  @eloy

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                                    @ananas@scicomm.xyz @eloy@hsnl.social @dkf@cyberplace.social i still really like e-mail for some reason

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                                    @tauon @eloy @dkf

                                    Well I've had plans to write my own email client software to replace roundcube, so I guess I kinda like it too.

                                    It's just love-hate relationship at this point.

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                                      @tauon @eloy @dkf

                                      Well I've had plans to write my own email client software to replace roundcube, so I guess I kinda like it too.

                                      It's just love-hate relationship at this point.

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                                      @ananas@scicomm.xyz @eloy@hsnl.social @dkf@cyberplace.social that's a cool idea
                                      in php? or

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                                        @ananas@scicomm.xyz @eloy@hsnl.social @dkf@cyberplace.social that's a cool idea
                                        in php? or

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                                        @tauon @eloy @dkf

                                        C++, PHP is not really in my repertoire. 😅

                                        And well, I want a native program for my email. Though I'd probably write it so it compiles to wasm for browser use.

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                                        • Ed BilodeauE Ed Bilodeau

                                          @eloy Efforts like this in the 80s were individual efforts, not organizationally driven. Individual on campuses today are still working to build a better world. And individuals on campuses are moving away from the MS stack (not me, mind you). But to make that change on an organizational level is a challenge of a different kind and order.

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                                          @eloy @edbilodeau As someone who has made his career in higher ed, this is very true. It's not impossible, just very hard. Change is more effective when it's organic rather than top down.

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