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  • raspberryT raspberry

    @toroidalcore Follow up, do you actually use/configure IPv6 😉

    Andrew ZonenbergA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @theraspb @toroidalcore yes and yes, but it randomly stops working every once in a while until i restart the DHCPv6 client on the router because sometimes the ISP CPE decides to stop routing my static delegated /56 until I create a new DHCPv6 session (renewing the lease doesn't fix it).

    Also cursed: if the DHCPv4 server on the CPE is turned off (even though I don't use DHCPv4 since i have a static /32) it'll hand out a delegated prefix but not update the routing table on the CPE so the delegated prefix won't route.

    And you can't ask it to delegate the /56. That would be way too logical. You have to make a separate PD request for each /60 in the /56

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    • Andrew ZonenbergA Andrew Zonenberg

      @theraspb @toroidalcore yes and yes, but it randomly stops working every once in a while until i restart the DHCPv6 client on the router because sometimes the ISP CPE decides to stop routing my static delegated /56 until I create a new DHCPv6 session (renewing the lease doesn't fix it).

      Also cursed: if the DHCPv4 server on the CPE is turned off (even though I don't use DHCPv4 since i have a static /32) it'll hand out a delegated prefix but not update the routing table on the CPE so the delegated prefix won't route.

      And you can't ask it to delegate the /56. That would be way too logical. You have to make a separate PD request for each /60 in the /56

      ToroidalCoreT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #28

      @azonenberg

      Any chance of using your own CPE?

      @theraspb

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      • ToroidalCoreT ToroidalCore

        @azonenberg

        Any chance of using your own CPE?

        @theraspb

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        #29

        @toroidalcore @theraspb i wish, not on comcast business

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        • Andrew ZonenbergA Andrew Zonenberg

          @toroidalcore @theraspb i wish, not on comcast business

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          ToroidalCore
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          #30

          @azonenberg

          Oof. That's an option on Spectrum, though I haven't bothered with it.

          Have that gotten high-split for you yet? Spectrum's planning on it supposedly, and they plan to offer 1 gig symmetrical.

          @theraspb

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          • Maddy - New Year, New Fops! :neofox_3c::tailwag:M Maddy - New Year, New Fops! :neofox_3c::tailwag:

            @toroidalcore@masto.hackers.town The only real saving grace is that I get two public IPv4 addresses, so I can at least run a Hurricane Electric IPv6 tunnel, which I've done.

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            #31

            @maddy I'm honestly surprised when I hear about people getting more than one public IPv4 address without asking for it, or getting business class. It feels like getting a public IPv4 at all is rare unless you're on a bigger ISP who had a bunch of them already.

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            • ToroidalCoreT ToroidalCore

              @azonenberg

              Oof. That's an option on Spectrum, though I haven't bothered with it.

              Have that gotten high-split for you yet? Spectrum's planning on it supposedly, and they plan to offer 1 gig symmetrical.

              @theraspb

              Andrew ZonenbergA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #32

              @toroidalcore @theraspb I'm told that some upgrades on the docsis side are coming, which will enable 1G symmetric (I'm on 500 down / 35 up IIRC at the moment).

              They've been saying that for something like the past two or three years. I'm not holding my breath.

              But last time I quoted for fiber they would have had to directional-drill the entire length of my street at an estimated cost of around $80K. So that's not an option yet.

              There's new apartments being built the next street over though, fingers crossed they run a fiber to that building and maybe I can get an install for <$50K at some point 😛

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              • ToroidalCoreT ToroidalCore

                @maddy I'm honestly surprised when I hear about people getting more than one public IPv4 address without asking for it, or getting business class. It feels like getting a public IPv4 at all is rare unless you're on a bigger ISP who had a bunch of them already.

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                #33

                @toroidalcore@masto.hackers.town In my case, I'm with a local-ish ISP who bought up a massive block of IPv4 early on, and has used that to their benefit, avoiding furthering IPv6 adoption as long as they can help it. >.>

                But at least everyone gets a public IPv4 or two - none of their wired residential customers have to deal with CGNAT.

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                • Andrew ZonenbergA Andrew Zonenberg

                  @toroidalcore @theraspb I'm told that some upgrades on the docsis side are coming, which will enable 1G symmetric (I'm on 500 down / 35 up IIRC at the moment).

                  They've been saying that for something like the past two or three years. I'm not holding my breath.

                  But last time I quoted for fiber they would have had to directional-drill the entire length of my street at an estimated cost of around $80K. So that's not an option yet.

                  There's new apartments being built the next street over though, fingers crossed they run a fiber to that building and maybe I can get an install for <$50K at some point 😛

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                  @azonenberg

                  Spectrum's been talking about the upgrade for years, supposedly it's coming in the summer to my area, but per Reddit people are getting it, so that's something.

                  That said, there's a local(ish, same state) company building out fiber who's finally starting to build out in my neighborhood and is taking orders. I'm planning on switching, even though they do IPv4 CGNAT. I get a /60 for v6 at least.

                  @theraspb

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                  • Maddy - New Year, New Fops! :neofox_3c::tailwag:M Maddy - New Year, New Fops! :neofox_3c::tailwag:

                    @toroidalcore@masto.hackers.town In my case, I'm with a local-ish ISP who bought up a massive block of IPv4 early on, and has used that to their benefit, avoiding furthering IPv6 adoption as long as they can help it. >.>

                    But at least everyone gets a public IPv4 or two - none of their wired residential customers have to deal with CGNAT.

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #35

                    @maddy Good on them for grabbing enough IPv4 and avoiding CGNAT. Not that I want to cheer for CGNAT, but it is a shame they can't push ahead with v6.

                    (Then again I don't know their infrastructure, so who knows.)

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                    • ToroidalCoreT ToroidalCore

                      Does your ISP support IPv6?

                      Boosts welcome.

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                      #36

                      @toroidalcore Depends on the ISP

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                      • LinkyKatsumiVTL LinkyKatsumiVT

                        @toroidalcore Depends on the ISP

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                        #37

                        @linkachus17 Do you have more than one?

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                        • ToroidalCoreT ToroidalCore

                          @linkachus17 Do you have more than one?

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                          @toroidalcore Used to be. But the one am currently using has IPv6. While the other doesn't

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                          • ToroidalCoreT ToroidalCore

                            Does your ISP support IPv6?

                            Boosts welcome.

                            Victor WesterhuisV This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #39

                            @toroidalcore I get a /48 and I use different /64's for different parts of my network

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                            • ToroidalCoreT ToroidalCore

                              Does your ISP support IPv6?

                              Boosts welcome.

                              AliciaBytesA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              AliciaBytes
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                              #40

                              @toroidalcore Yes, but not by default or publicly advertised. We asked in the shop and got IPv6 enabled for us. Apparently for them it's available on an experimental request basis.

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                              • ToroidalCoreT ToroidalCore

                                Does your ISP support IPv6?

                                Boosts welcome.

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                                @toroidalcore yes and they charge extra for it, *and* only on "business lines". Fuckers.

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                                • Victor WesterhuisV Victor Westerhuis

                                  @toroidalcore I get a /48 and I use different /64's for different parts of my network

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                                  #42

                                  @viccie30 Nice, I only get a /60, but it's better than nothing. I've heard of some ISPs only giving out one /64.

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                                  • AliciaBytesA AliciaBytes

                                    @toroidalcore Yes, but not by default or publicly advertised. We asked in the shop and got IPv6 enabled for us. Apparently for them it's available on an experimental request basis.

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                                    #43

                                    @AliciaBytes Not great, but not terrible.

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                                    • dch :flantifa: :flan_hacker:D dch :flantifa: :flan_hacker:

                                      @toroidalcore yes and they charge extra for it, *and* only on "business lines". Fuckers.

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                                      @dch That's too bad, I guess they consider it an 'enterprise' feature so it's gotta cost more...

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                                      • ToroidalCoreT ToroidalCore

                                        @viccie30 Nice, I only get a /60, but it's better than nothing. I've heard of some ISPs only giving out one /64.

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                                        @toroidalcore A /60 would probably work for me, I don't have that many subnets, but it gives me room to expand my network if necessary. And the /48 allows me to neatly map a /64 to each VLAN.
                                        I have one fixed IPv4 address as well and if I pay extra I can get a /29 as well, but I don't need that (yet).

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                                        • Victor WesterhuisV Victor Westerhuis

                                          @toroidalcore A /60 would probably work for me, I don't have that many subnets, but it gives me room to expand my network if necessary. And the /48 allows me to neatly map a /64 to each VLAN.
                                          I have one fixed IPv4 address as well and if I pay extra I can get a /29 as well, but I don't need that (yet).

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                                          #46

                                          @viccie30 I've got subnets, but not too many at the moment. The extras would be handy and I could probably find something for them eventually.

                                          I haven't looked into getting extra IPv4 at my current ISP, but at least I do get one public one. I'm planning on switching to a fiber ISP and will give that up, but at least they also give out a /60. They' re a little cheaper, but I guess I could get a public IPv4 from them and pay about what I pay now.

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