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  • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

    Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

    I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

    A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

    https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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    @vkc@linuxmom.net I'm not a fan of it either, never have been, it's also really hard to disable, even when switched off in Gnone, it still works in Firefox and the Terminal (in Ubuntu) and you can't disable it easily there ​​
    I think I heard it's an XORG thing, so maybe Wayland will change that, or it will be easier to control from Gnome, idk

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    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

      Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

      I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

      A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

      https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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      It's frustration by the community using GNOME as they feel their interests aren't considered in the development process. This is a natural outcome in sociology.

      When you use something, you typically have a vested interest in the prosperity of it. People tend to get frustrated when they're ignored and passionate enough about something to voice their discontent.

      I did the very same with you previously regarding paywalling your community.

      @vkc@linuxmom.net
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      • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

        Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

        I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

        A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

        https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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        It's frustration by the community using GNOME as they feel their interests aren't considered in the development process. This is a natural outcome in sociology.

        When you use something, you typically have a vested interest in the prosperity of it. People tend to get frustrated when they feel ignored and some are passionate enough about it to voice their discontent.

        I did the very same with you previously regarding paywalling your community.

        *Edited.

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        • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

          The way the article is written. The way the comments talk about it.

          Why do people make it sound like GNOME is some sort of secret cabal of Linux haters?

          It's a freaking desktop environment, they have every right to build it however they want, and you have every right to use something different. There's zero reason to get emotionally charged about it.

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          Anyway, if you like GNOME and their design concepts, you're awesome and totally a valid user of Linux.

          Sick of the absurd nonsense that says otherwise.

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          • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

            Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

            I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

            A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

            https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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            @vkc maybe they got bored of ranting about Apple

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            • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

              The way the article is written. The way the comments talk about it.

              Why do people make it sound like GNOME is some sort of secret cabal of Linux haters?

              It's a freaking desktop environment, they have every right to build it however they want, and you have every right to use something different. There's zero reason to get emotionally charged about it.

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              @vkc not when you have muscle memory going back to the 1980s with middle click

              not when the distro(s) you like have it as the default desktop

              not when the other desktops are just a heap of no

              Gnome tried to get rid of icons on the desktop a few years ago. User pressure brought them back (admittedly through some pretty foul shell hacks)

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              • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

                I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

                A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

                https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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                @vkc the fear is that after being disabled by default, it will eventually be removed entirely.

                I can understand being frustrated by accidental triggering, especially with the new fast scrolling super clicky mouse wheels.

                I specifically buy a mouse that doesn't do this because I'm left-handed and copy paste almost exclusively with the middle button.

                As a lefty, middle-click paste is a godsend. Otherwise, I have to move off the mouse to the keyboard and back.

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                  @vkc not when you have muscle memory going back to the 1980s with middle click

                  not when the distro(s) you like have it as the default desktop

                  not when the other desktops are just a heap of no

                  Gnome tried to get rid of icons on the desktop a few years ago. User pressure brought them back (admittedly through some pretty foul shell hacks)

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                  @scruss no. Don't get emotionally charged about it.

                  It's a design choice. Your emotions shouldn't matter, just choose something different. Run a command to add the feature back.

                  I'm not saying don't have opinions. I'm saying, emphatically, that getting emotionally charged about it is, in fact, a bad thing.

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                  • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                    Anyway, if you like GNOME and their design concepts, you're awesome and totally a valid user of Linux.

                    Sick of the absurd nonsense that says otherwise.

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                    @vkc 😏 if you say so

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                    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                      The way the article is written. The way the comments talk about it.

                      Why do people make it sound like GNOME is some sort of secret cabal of Linux haters?

                      It's a freaking desktop environment, they have every right to build it however they want, and you have every right to use something different. There's zero reason to get emotionally charged about it.

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                      @vkc
                      Like, give it a week and an extension to bring back middle click will be published, and harmony will be restored 🀞

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                      • Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @theodric it's just a desktop, no need to get insulting

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                          @vkc True that! Having said that I'd like to spend a disproportionate amount of time, not to talk, but to argue with you about rounded corners πŸ˜‰

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                          • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                            Hot take: good riddance. I dislike the middle click thing. Trips me up all the time as someone who accidentally clicks it when scrolling.

                            I think the right move is to make this (undoubtedly useful to some) behavior opt-in, not opt-out.

                            A lot of the gripes I see are just people being mad because GNOME makes choices they don't like. I don't understand why people write like this about GNOME, if you don't like it don't use it, your emotions make you look petty, etc etc.

                            https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/07/gnome_middle_click_paste/

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                            @vkc and it is a default setting, it can be flipped back on.

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                              @ozzelot @scanner @vkc yeah i HATED middle click paste when I was using a thinkpad with trackpoint

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                              • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                Anyway, if you like GNOME and their design concepts, you're awesome and totally a valid user of Linux.

                                Sick of the absurd nonsense that says otherwise.

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                                @vkc I started using computers when it was still the users who had to adapt. I kept that mentality throughout the years.

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                                • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                  The way the article is written. The way the comments talk about it.

                                  Why do people make it sound like GNOME is some sort of secret cabal of Linux haters?

                                  It's a freaking desktop environment, they have every right to build it however they want, and you have every right to use something different. There's zero reason to get emotionally charged about it.

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                                  @vkc
                                  edit: one typo

                                  Because Linux and the graphic environments are so good that people need something to complain.
                                  I don't like Gnome, I prefer Mate, XFCE or KDE, but, the most important is we have choice to install them, and configure them like we want.

                                  I would like there is a middle clic in LibreOffice when you unselected text to past. Dev answered it depend on system.

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                                  • dcbaokD dcbaok

                                    @vkc the fear is that after being disabled by default, it will eventually be removed entirely.

                                    I can understand being frustrated by accidental triggering, especially with the new fast scrolling super clicky mouse wheels.

                                    I specifically buy a mouse that doesn't do this because I'm left-handed and copy paste almost exclusively with the middle button.

                                    As a lefty, middle-click paste is a godsend. Otherwise, I have to move off the mouse to the keyboard and back.

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                                    @dcbaok I don't understand why you fear it being disabled entirely?

                                    In GNOME at least, there's a billion extensions for fixing things, and a feature this popular almost certainly can't be gotten rid of completely.

                                    I think that fear is irrational considering the actual proposal and the reality of how Linux is made.

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                                      @vkc I have two professional mentors who both insist on using Enlightenment like it's still 2003. I don't know how or why, but that's the beauty of Linux that you can.

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                                      • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                        Anyway, if you like GNOME and their design concepts, you're awesome and totally a valid user of Linux.

                                        Sick of the absurd nonsense that says otherwise.

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                                        @vkc I've been using i3 and Sway for years, and I'm now using Gnome almost exclusively.

                                        Do I miss tiling windows and extreme customizability from time to time? Sure.

                                        But what I don't miss is spending hours at a time trying to get apps to deal with the window manager aggressively resizing them, or getting screen sharing or screenshots to work.

                                        Like they say: Choose the right tool for the job. Use something user-friendly if that's your focus. If you want raw hack value, use something else. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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                                          @bruce I really don't think it can be "done away with" logistically, more likely would be hidden behind an extension or a Tweaks toggle (which IMO is a reasonable compromise).

                                          Too many people like the feature for it to be in any real danger.

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