Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

@txtx @mhoye I didn't say Facebook & birdchan are anarchist/anti fascist. I said that the demand that they don't have a hold on our public spaces that only allows people able and willing to dox themselves to participate in public life is anarchist and antifascist.

@charogg @mhoye According to your logic, why would we need to check voter ID since they already know?

@mynameistillian @mhoye You're not giving them anything they don't already have. What you're doing is proving you're an adult. That's it.

@mynameistillian @mhoye It's a norm here in the US where we provide ID for all sorts of things.

@dalias It looks like none of that is working. ICE is rounding up anyone they want in the US. Iran is crushing protests. Syria? Egypt? China? Russia? Where has social media helped society in public discourse? It's leading to death everywhere. It's a complete failure in every way possible.

So I can't support the status quo.

@FlashMobOfOne @mynameistillian unfortunately that’s not true. You’re also correlating your identity directly with whatever site or action you’re using through a third party who happens to be the state.

@mhoye @FlashMobOfOne yes. it also makes a precedent where you cannot use a service if you're not showing your data first.

also, as someone who is championing youth liberation, i don't want teens and kids to have their freedoms limited because they're minors.

@FlashMobOfOne @mhoye and who does that norm benefit?

@FlashMobOfOne @charogg when people say that Americans are the most propagandized people on earth it’s because of conversations like this one.

@txtx "It's not working so let's try more fascism!" is the brainworms of lots of voters. And it's always an utterly horrible idea.

@FlashMobOfOne @mhoye also, just because USA has willingly given up its privacy, doesn't mean the rest of the world should comply.

@dalias So calling me a brainwormed fascist, this is what you use anonymity for? Really nice. Great argument.