Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Darkly)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo
  1. Home
  2. Uncategorized
  3. German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Uncategorized
70 Posts 40 Posters 141 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • David CulleyD David Culley

    German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

    After a soccer match with believable hooligan violence against police officers, the German union of police officers (GdP) rightly condemns violence against police officers.

    However, instead of using real footage for their press release² of the actual violence that was actually committed, they used some AI-generated fake image and denoted that fact only with a teeny-tiny note in the corner, saying "AI-generated: ChatGPT".

    I find this very problematic.

    The news report mentioned several injured police officers, some badly injured, and the fake image shows an officer bleeding from his forehead. I have no way to know if any officer was actually bleeding from his head or if this is an exaggeration to make a point. In a time when politicians call for ever more surveillance and ever more power for police officers, this can function as dangerous misinformation.

    Especially considering that the Nazis are growing ever stronger and our so-called democratic political parties are building a police state for them. Manufacturing consent using fake images of violence against police officers is dangerous.

    Although this was a soccer match, not an anti-genocide protest, and soccer matches occasionally attract violent hooligans, protests are almost always peaceful. At least until the police starts the violence and beats up anyone who protests against fossil fuels or genocide. If we allow police to use AI-generated images in their press releases, then we cannot believe them anything anymore at all. If people still believe them, anyway.

    Condemning violence only when it hits them is also hypocritical.

    Police is already instigating and inciting against imagined "violent radical leftists", even before/without the use of AI fakes.

    The GdP isn't innocent. Just two months ago when the modern NSDAP wanted to start their Hitler Youth equivalent and people peacefully blocked the roads, whereafter the police played taxi for officially recognized Nazis, the GdP said "the radical leftists showed their ugly face and violence".

    It's inacceptable for the police to fake images of violence against police.

    ¹ Sachsen, not even the infamous Berlin police
    ² https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

    vlkrV This user is from outside of this forum
    vlkrV This user is from outside of this forum
    vlkr
    wrote last edited by
    #5

    @davidculley The many pockets on their vests are mostly for all their extra fingers.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • David CulleyD David Culley

      German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

      After a soccer match with believable hooligan violence against police officers, the German union of police officers (GdP) rightly condemns violence against police officers.

      However, instead of using real footage for their press release² of the actual violence that was actually committed, they used some AI-generated fake image and denoted that fact only with a teeny-tiny note in the corner, saying "AI-generated: ChatGPT".

      I find this very problematic.

      The news report mentioned several injured police officers, some badly injured, and the fake image shows an officer bleeding from his forehead. I have no way to know if any officer was actually bleeding from his head or if this is an exaggeration to make a point. In a time when politicians call for ever more surveillance and ever more power for police officers, this can function as dangerous misinformation.

      Especially considering that the Nazis are growing ever stronger and our so-called democratic political parties are building a police state for them. Manufacturing consent using fake images of violence against police officers is dangerous.

      Although this was a soccer match, not an anti-genocide protest, and soccer matches occasionally attract violent hooligans, protests are almost always peaceful. At least until the police starts the violence and beats up anyone who protests against fossil fuels or genocide. If we allow police to use AI-generated images in their press releases, then we cannot believe them anything anymore at all. If people still believe them, anyway.

      Condemning violence only when it hits them is also hypocritical.

      Police is already instigating and inciting against imagined "violent radical leftists", even before/without the use of AI fakes.

      The GdP isn't innocent. Just two months ago when the modern NSDAP wanted to start their Hitler Youth equivalent and people peacefully blocked the roads, whereafter the police played taxi for officially recognized Nazis, the GdP said "the radical leftists showed their ugly face and violence".

      It's inacceptable for the police to fake images of violence against police.

      ¹ Sachsen, not even the infamous Berlin police
      ² https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

      GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
      GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
      GhostOnTheHalfShell
      wrote last edited by
      #6

      @davidculley kind of funny because what happened to the guy he got his head all bloody what happened to his helmet? Yeah it’s such a garbage.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • David CulleyD David Culley

        German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

        After a soccer match with believable hooligan violence against police officers, the German union of police officers (GdP) rightly condemns violence against police officers.

        However, instead of using real footage for their press release² of the actual violence that was actually committed, they used some AI-generated fake image and denoted that fact only with a teeny-tiny note in the corner, saying "AI-generated: ChatGPT".

        I find this very problematic.

        The news report mentioned several injured police officers, some badly injured, and the fake image shows an officer bleeding from his forehead. I have no way to know if any officer was actually bleeding from his head or if this is an exaggeration to make a point. In a time when politicians call for ever more surveillance and ever more power for police officers, this can function as dangerous misinformation.

        Especially considering that the Nazis are growing ever stronger and our so-called democratic political parties are building a police state for them. Manufacturing consent using fake images of violence against police officers is dangerous.

        Although this was a soccer match, not an anti-genocide protest, and soccer matches occasionally attract violent hooligans, protests are almost always peaceful. At least until the police starts the violence and beats up anyone who protests against fossil fuels or genocide. If we allow police to use AI-generated images in their press releases, then we cannot believe them anything anymore at all. If people still believe them, anyway.

        Condemning violence only when it hits them is also hypocritical.

        Police is already instigating and inciting against imagined "violent radical leftists", even before/without the use of AI fakes.

        The GdP isn't innocent. Just two months ago when the modern NSDAP wanted to start their Hitler Youth equivalent and people peacefully blocked the roads, whereafter the police played taxi for officially recognized Nazis, the GdP said "the radical leftists showed their ugly face and violence".

        It's inacceptable for the police to fake images of violence against police.

        ¹ Sachsen, not even the infamous Berlin police
        ² https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

        Not a Spring OnionW This user is from outside of this forum
        Not a Spring OnionW This user is from outside of this forum
        Not a Spring Onion
        wrote last edited by
        #7

        @davidculley "Since we didn't have any actual injured officers, we had to fake some."

        David CulleyD SimonS 2 Replies Last reply
        0
        • David CulleyD David Culley

          German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

          After a soccer match with believable hooligan violence against police officers, the German union of police officers (GdP) rightly condemns violence against police officers.

          However, instead of using real footage for their press release² of the actual violence that was actually committed, they used some AI-generated fake image and denoted that fact only with a teeny-tiny note in the corner, saying "AI-generated: ChatGPT".

          I find this very problematic.

          The news report mentioned several injured police officers, some badly injured, and the fake image shows an officer bleeding from his forehead. I have no way to know if any officer was actually bleeding from his head or if this is an exaggeration to make a point. In a time when politicians call for ever more surveillance and ever more power for police officers, this can function as dangerous misinformation.

          Especially considering that the Nazis are growing ever stronger and our so-called democratic political parties are building a police state for them. Manufacturing consent using fake images of violence against police officers is dangerous.

          Although this was a soccer match, not an anti-genocide protest, and soccer matches occasionally attract violent hooligans, protests are almost always peaceful. At least until the police starts the violence and beats up anyone who protests against fossil fuels or genocide. If we allow police to use AI-generated images in their press releases, then we cannot believe them anything anymore at all. If people still believe them, anyway.

          Condemning violence only when it hits them is also hypocritical.

          Police is already instigating and inciting against imagined "violent radical leftists", even before/without the use of AI fakes.

          The GdP isn't innocent. Just two months ago when the modern NSDAP wanted to start their Hitler Youth equivalent and people peacefully blocked the roads, whereafter the police played taxi for officially recognized Nazis, the GdP said "the radical leftists showed their ugly face and violence".

          It's inacceptable for the police to fake images of violence against police.

          ¹ Sachsen, not even the infamous Berlin police
          ² https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

          GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
          GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
          GhostOnTheHalfShell
          wrote last edited by
          #8

          @davidculley

          any law-enforcement organization found to be generating disinformation like this should be declared illegal or and suffer criminal penalty.

          sleepfreeparentS 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • David CulleyD David Culley

            German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

            After a soccer match with believable hooligan violence against police officers, the German union of police officers (GdP) rightly condemns violence against police officers.

            However, instead of using real footage for their press release² of the actual violence that was actually committed, they used some AI-generated fake image and denoted that fact only with a teeny-tiny note in the corner, saying "AI-generated: ChatGPT".

            I find this very problematic.

            The news report mentioned several injured police officers, some badly injured, and the fake image shows an officer bleeding from his forehead. I have no way to know if any officer was actually bleeding from his head or if this is an exaggeration to make a point. In a time when politicians call for ever more surveillance and ever more power for police officers, this can function as dangerous misinformation.

            Especially considering that the Nazis are growing ever stronger and our so-called democratic political parties are building a police state for them. Manufacturing consent using fake images of violence against police officers is dangerous.

            Although this was a soccer match, not an anti-genocide protest, and soccer matches occasionally attract violent hooligans, protests are almost always peaceful. At least until the police starts the violence and beats up anyone who protests against fossil fuels or genocide. If we allow police to use AI-generated images in their press releases, then we cannot believe them anything anymore at all. If people still believe them, anyway.

            Condemning violence only when it hits them is also hypocritical.

            Police is already instigating and inciting against imagined "violent radical leftists", even before/without the use of AI fakes.

            The GdP isn't innocent. Just two months ago when the modern NSDAP wanted to start their Hitler Youth equivalent and people peacefully blocked the roads, whereafter the police played taxi for officially recognized Nazis, the GdP said "the radical leftists showed their ugly face and violence".

            It's inacceptable for the police to fake images of violence against police.

            ¹ Sachsen, not even the infamous Berlin police
            ² https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

            phryk 🏴P This user is from outside of this forum
            phryk 🏴P This user is from outside of this forum
            phryk 🏴
            wrote last edited by
            #9

            @davidculley

            For anyone wondering about verification:

            The alt-text of the image is "Gewalt gegen Polizei | © KI-generiert: ChatGPT" ("Violence against police | © AI-generated: ChatGPT").

            So technically they admit it, but not in a way a normal user gets to see.

            I archived the page of the article at https://archive.ph/aD53r for further independent verification in case the GdP removes this.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • Not a Spring OnionW Not a Spring Onion

              @davidculley "Since we didn't have any actual injured officers, we had to fake some."

              David CulleyD This user is from outside of this forum
              David CulleyD This user is from outside of this forum
              David Culley
              wrote last edited by
              #10

              @wakame In a tiny footnote that they added >> after several people complained <<, they even write:

              > Zur Verdeutlichung und Transparenz weisen wir noch einmal darauf hin, dass es sich bei der Darstellung um ein KI-generiertes Bild handelt, welches nicht die eigentliche Einsatzsituation vorgeben soll.

              Translation: "To make it clear, and for transparency, we point out again that the image is AI-generated and not supposed to show what truly happened."

              What the fuck?!

              1. They admit to lying.
              2. Instead of removing their lies (or not posting them in the first place), they add a teeny tiny footnote, saying not to believe what they post.

              Source: https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

              Not a Spring OnionW ÆrionA 2 Replies Last reply
              0
              • Not a Spring OnionW Not a Spring Onion

                @davidculley "Since we didn't have any actual injured officers, we had to fake some."

                SimonS This user is from outside of this forum
                SimonS This user is from outside of this forum
                Simon
                wrote last edited by
                #11

                @wakame @davidculley

                No idea why they posted an AI generated photo, but there were still a lot of injured officers.

                https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/regional/sachsenanhalt/ausschreitungen-magdeburg-102.html

                philippE Fabiano CelentanoF ÆrionA 3 Replies Last reply
                0
                • David CulleyD David Culley

                  @wakame In a tiny footnote that they added >> after several people complained <<, they even write:

                  > Zur Verdeutlichung und Transparenz weisen wir noch einmal darauf hin, dass es sich bei der Darstellung um ein KI-generiertes Bild handelt, welches nicht die eigentliche Einsatzsituation vorgeben soll.

                  Translation: "To make it clear, and for transparency, we point out again that the image is AI-generated and not supposed to show what truly happened."

                  What the fuck?!

                  1. They admit to lying.
                  2. Instead of removing their lies (or not posting them in the first place), they add a teeny tiny footnote, saying not to believe what they post.

                  Source: https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

                  Not a Spring OnionW This user is from outside of this forum
                  Not a Spring OnionW This user is from outside of this forum
                  Not a Spring Onion
                  wrote last edited by
                  #12

                  @davidculley
                  In the meantime, I have found credible evidence that these elite officers were actually involved in a top-secret mission to raid an abandoned science lab on Monday.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • David CulleyD David Culley

                    German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

                    After a soccer match with believable hooligan violence against police officers, the German union of police officers (GdP) rightly condemns violence against police officers.

                    However, instead of using real footage for their press release² of the actual violence that was actually committed, they used some AI-generated fake image and denoted that fact only with a teeny-tiny note in the corner, saying "AI-generated: ChatGPT".

                    I find this very problematic.

                    The news report mentioned several injured police officers, some badly injured, and the fake image shows an officer bleeding from his forehead. I have no way to know if any officer was actually bleeding from his head or if this is an exaggeration to make a point. In a time when politicians call for ever more surveillance and ever more power for police officers, this can function as dangerous misinformation.

                    Especially considering that the Nazis are growing ever stronger and our so-called democratic political parties are building a police state for them. Manufacturing consent using fake images of violence against police officers is dangerous.

                    Although this was a soccer match, not an anti-genocide protest, and soccer matches occasionally attract violent hooligans, protests are almost always peaceful. At least until the police starts the violence and beats up anyone who protests against fossil fuels or genocide. If we allow police to use AI-generated images in their press releases, then we cannot believe them anything anymore at all. If people still believe them, anyway.

                    Condemning violence only when it hits them is also hypocritical.

                    Police is already instigating and inciting against imagined "violent radical leftists", even before/without the use of AI fakes.

                    The GdP isn't innocent. Just two months ago when the modern NSDAP wanted to start their Hitler Youth equivalent and people peacefully blocked the roads, whereafter the police played taxi for officially recognized Nazis, the GdP said "the radical leftists showed their ugly face and violence".

                    It's inacceptable for the police to fake images of violence against police.

                    ¹ Sachsen, not even the infamous Berlin police
                    ² https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

                    Aline BlankertzA This user is from outside of this forum
                    Aline BlankertzA This user is from outside of this forum
                    Aline Blankertz
                    wrote last edited by
                    #13

                    @davidculley
                    Thanks for adding the clarification!

                    Still, I find the AI generation of what is supposed to look like evidence of violence against the police outrageous, even in cases where there was violence against a police officer. I mean, in fact, I find the use of AI to provide something that looks like evidence terrible in any case; it is just worse if by a public institution, and even worse if supposedly documenting violence.

                    David CulleyD 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • Aline BlankertzA Aline Blankertz

                      @davidculley
                      Thanks for adding the clarification!

                      Still, I find the AI generation of what is supposed to look like evidence of violence against the police outrageous, even in cases where there was violence against a police officer. I mean, in fact, I find the use of AI to provide something that looks like evidence terrible in any case; it is just worse if by a public institution, and even worse if supposedly documenting violence.

                      David CulleyD This user is from outside of this forum
                      David CulleyD This user is from outside of this forum
                      David Culley
                      wrote last edited by
                      #14

                      @alineblankertz Thank you. I admit I was a bit too quick ranting about police, given all the negative and unmistakable experiences in recent and not so recent past.

                      I condemn violent soccer fans. I don't even consider them fans. True fans are there to enjoy the sport and watch their team. But these folks only come for acting out their violence. And destroy the reputation of "their team". A fan wouldn't do that.

                      - There was actual use of pyrotechnics.
                      - Hooligans did actually throw stones at police officers.
                      - There probably were dozens of officers with broken bones and similar injuries.

                      Police has all that on video/film. Why not use a picture—any picture—of that? That way everyone believes that out-of-control violent hooligans throw dangerous stuff at police officers.

                      Why generate some crappy AI image that destroys all trust in their coverage? How am I supposed to believe this violence against police officers is something that actually happened and not just pulled out of their ass like so many of their lies, after escorting Nazis or beating up genocide protestors.

                      I expect something else from news coverage.

                      Aline BlankertzA 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • David CulleyD David Culley

                        German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

                        After a soccer match with believable hooligan violence against police officers, the German union of police officers (GdP) rightly condemns violence against police officers.

                        However, instead of using real footage for their press release² of the actual violence that was actually committed, they used some AI-generated fake image and denoted that fact only with a teeny-tiny note in the corner, saying "AI-generated: ChatGPT".

                        I find this very problematic.

                        The news report mentioned several injured police officers, some badly injured, and the fake image shows an officer bleeding from his forehead. I have no way to know if any officer was actually bleeding from his head or if this is an exaggeration to make a point. In a time when politicians call for ever more surveillance and ever more power for police officers, this can function as dangerous misinformation.

                        Especially considering that the Nazis are growing ever stronger and our so-called democratic political parties are building a police state for them. Manufacturing consent using fake images of violence against police officers is dangerous.

                        Although this was a soccer match, not an anti-genocide protest, and soccer matches occasionally attract violent hooligans, protests are almost always peaceful. At least until the police starts the violence and beats up anyone who protests against fossil fuels or genocide. If we allow police to use AI-generated images in their press releases, then we cannot believe them anything anymore at all. If people still believe them, anyway.

                        Condemning violence only when it hits them is also hypocritical.

                        Police is already instigating and inciting against imagined "violent radical leftists", even before/without the use of AI fakes.

                        The GdP isn't innocent. Just two months ago when the modern NSDAP wanted to start their Hitler Youth equivalent and people peacefully blocked the roads, whereafter the police played taxi for officially recognized Nazis, the GdP said "the radical leftists showed their ugly face and violence".

                        It's inacceptable for the police to fake images of violence against police.

                        ¹ Sachsen, not even the infamous Berlin police
                        ² https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

                        NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                        NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                        Netraven
                        wrote last edited by
                        #15

                        @davidculley look how many "agitators" there are in the background. Oh noes! Nothing can stop the radical left! /s

                        Btw, I didn't know there was a dress code to being radical left, or is that the only color coat sold in Germany? I don't know these things, silly me.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • David CulleyD David Culley

                          German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

                          After a soccer match with believable hooligan violence against police officers, the German union of police officers (GdP) rightly condemns violence against police officers.

                          However, instead of using real footage for their press release² of the actual violence that was actually committed, they used some AI-generated fake image and denoted that fact only with a teeny-tiny note in the corner, saying "AI-generated: ChatGPT".

                          I find this very problematic.

                          The news report mentioned several injured police officers, some badly injured, and the fake image shows an officer bleeding from his forehead. I have no way to know if any officer was actually bleeding from his head or if this is an exaggeration to make a point. In a time when politicians call for ever more surveillance and ever more power for police officers, this can function as dangerous misinformation.

                          Especially considering that the Nazis are growing ever stronger and our so-called democratic political parties are building a police state for them. Manufacturing consent using fake images of violence against police officers is dangerous.

                          Although this was a soccer match, not an anti-genocide protest, and soccer matches occasionally attract violent hooligans, protests are almost always peaceful. At least until the police starts the violence and beats up anyone who protests against fossil fuels or genocide. If we allow police to use AI-generated images in their press releases, then we cannot believe them anything anymore at all. If people still believe them, anyway.

                          Condemning violence only when it hits them is also hypocritical.

                          Police is already instigating and inciting against imagined "violent radical leftists", even before/without the use of AI fakes.

                          The GdP isn't innocent. Just two months ago when the modern NSDAP wanted to start their Hitler Youth equivalent and people peacefully blocked the roads, whereafter the police played taxi for officially recognized Nazis, the GdP said "the radical leftists showed their ugly face and violence".

                          It's inacceptable for the police to fake images of violence against police.

                          ¹ Sachsen, not even the infamous Berlin police
                          ² https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

                          Rainer ZufallR This user is from outside of this forum
                          Rainer ZufallR This user is from outside of this forum
                          Rainer Zufall
                          wrote last edited by
                          #16

                          @davidculley And of the two German unions for uniformed police (as opposed to detevtives), this is the slightly less problematic one 🙈

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • David CulleyD David Culley

                            German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

                            After a soccer match with believable hooligan violence against police officers, the German union of police officers (GdP) rightly condemns violence against police officers.

                            However, instead of using real footage for their press release² of the actual violence that was actually committed, they used some AI-generated fake image and denoted that fact only with a teeny-tiny note in the corner, saying "AI-generated: ChatGPT".

                            I find this very problematic.

                            The news report mentioned several injured police officers, some badly injured, and the fake image shows an officer bleeding from his forehead. I have no way to know if any officer was actually bleeding from his head or if this is an exaggeration to make a point. In a time when politicians call for ever more surveillance and ever more power for police officers, this can function as dangerous misinformation.

                            Especially considering that the Nazis are growing ever stronger and our so-called democratic political parties are building a police state for them. Manufacturing consent using fake images of violence against police officers is dangerous.

                            Although this was a soccer match, not an anti-genocide protest, and soccer matches occasionally attract violent hooligans, protests are almost always peaceful. At least until the police starts the violence and beats up anyone who protests against fossil fuels or genocide. If we allow police to use AI-generated images in their press releases, then we cannot believe them anything anymore at all. If people still believe them, anyway.

                            Condemning violence only when it hits them is also hypocritical.

                            Police is already instigating and inciting against imagined "violent radical leftists", even before/without the use of AI fakes.

                            The GdP isn't innocent. Just two months ago when the modern NSDAP wanted to start their Hitler Youth equivalent and people peacefully blocked the roads, whereafter the police played taxi for officially recognized Nazis, the GdP said "the radical leftists showed their ugly face and violence".

                            It's inacceptable for the police to fake images of violence against police.

                            ¹ Sachsen, not even the infamous Berlin police
                            ² https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

                            NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                            NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                            Netraven
                            wrote last edited by
                            #17

                            @davidculley Why the “it’s just symbolic / AI” defense rings hollow

                            Because the harm isn’t about deception in a narrow sense (“this exact event happened”). It’s about legitimizing a power narrative:

                            We are the injured, reasonable authority; they are the threatening crowd.

                            AI just makes it cheaper, faster, and safer for institutions to manufacture that affect without accountability.

                            NetravenN 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • David CulleyD David Culley

                              German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

                              After a soccer match with believable hooligan violence against police officers, the German union of police officers (GdP) rightly condemns violence against police officers.

                              However, instead of using real footage for their press release² of the actual violence that was actually committed, they used some AI-generated fake image and denoted that fact only with a teeny-tiny note in the corner, saying "AI-generated: ChatGPT".

                              I find this very problematic.

                              The news report mentioned several injured police officers, some badly injured, and the fake image shows an officer bleeding from his forehead. I have no way to know if any officer was actually bleeding from his head or if this is an exaggeration to make a point. In a time when politicians call for ever more surveillance and ever more power for police officers, this can function as dangerous misinformation.

                              Especially considering that the Nazis are growing ever stronger and our so-called democratic political parties are building a police state for them. Manufacturing consent using fake images of violence against police officers is dangerous.

                              Although this was a soccer match, not an anti-genocide protest, and soccer matches occasionally attract violent hooligans, protests are almost always peaceful. At least until the police starts the violence and beats up anyone who protests against fossil fuels or genocide. If we allow police to use AI-generated images in their press releases, then we cannot believe them anything anymore at all. If people still believe them, anyway.

                              Condemning violence only when it hits them is also hypocritical.

                              Police is already instigating and inciting against imagined "violent radical leftists", even before/without the use of AI fakes.

                              The GdP isn't innocent. Just two months ago when the modern NSDAP wanted to start their Hitler Youth equivalent and people peacefully blocked the roads, whereafter the police played taxi for officially recognized Nazis, the GdP said "the radical leftists showed their ugly face and violence".

                              It's inacceptable for the police to fake images of violence against police.

                              ¹ Sachsen, not even the infamous Berlin police
                              ² https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

                              NiniN This user is from outside of this forum
                              NiniN This user is from outside of this forum
                              Nini
                              wrote last edited by
                              #18

                              @davidculley LLMs are the tools of fascism.

                              W 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • David CulleyD David Culley

                                German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

                                After a soccer match with believable hooligan violence against police officers, the German union of police officers (GdP) rightly condemns violence against police officers.

                                However, instead of using real footage for their press release² of the actual violence that was actually committed, they used some AI-generated fake image and denoted that fact only with a teeny-tiny note in the corner, saying "AI-generated: ChatGPT".

                                I find this very problematic.

                                The news report mentioned several injured police officers, some badly injured, and the fake image shows an officer bleeding from his forehead. I have no way to know if any officer was actually bleeding from his head or if this is an exaggeration to make a point. In a time when politicians call for ever more surveillance and ever more power for police officers, this can function as dangerous misinformation.

                                Especially considering that the Nazis are growing ever stronger and our so-called democratic political parties are building a police state for them. Manufacturing consent using fake images of violence against police officers is dangerous.

                                Although this was a soccer match, not an anti-genocide protest, and soccer matches occasionally attract violent hooligans, protests are almost always peaceful. At least until the police starts the violence and beats up anyone who protests against fossil fuels or genocide. If we allow police to use AI-generated images in their press releases, then we cannot believe them anything anymore at all. If people still believe them, anyway.

                                Condemning violence only when it hits them is also hypocritical.

                                Police is already instigating and inciting against imagined "violent radical leftists", even before/without the use of AI fakes.

                                The GdP isn't innocent. Just two months ago when the modern NSDAP wanted to start their Hitler Youth equivalent and people peacefully blocked the roads, whereafter the police played taxi for officially recognized Nazis, the GdP said "the radical leftists showed their ugly face and violence".

                                It's inacceptable for the police to fake images of violence against police.

                                ¹ Sachsen, not even the infamous Berlin police
                                ² https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

                                David CulleyD This user is from outside of this forum
                                David CulleyD This user is from outside of this forum
                                David Culley
                                wrote last edited by
                                #19

                                I heavily edited my initial posting, which I think needed some clarification to not spread misinformation.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • David CulleyD David Culley

                                  @alineblankertz Thank you. I admit I was a bit too quick ranting about police, given all the negative and unmistakable experiences in recent and not so recent past.

                                  I condemn violent soccer fans. I don't even consider them fans. True fans are there to enjoy the sport and watch their team. But these folks only come for acting out their violence. And destroy the reputation of "their team". A fan wouldn't do that.

                                  - There was actual use of pyrotechnics.
                                  - Hooligans did actually throw stones at police officers.
                                  - There probably were dozens of officers with broken bones and similar injuries.

                                  Police has all that on video/film. Why not use a picture—any picture—of that? That way everyone believes that out-of-control violent hooligans throw dangerous stuff at police officers.

                                  Why generate some crappy AI image that destroys all trust in their coverage? How am I supposed to believe this violence against police officers is something that actually happened and not just pulled out of their ass like so many of their lies, after escorting Nazis or beating up genocide protestors.

                                  I expect something else from news coverage.

                                  Aline BlankertzA This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Aline BlankertzA This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Aline Blankertz
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #20

                                  @davidculley

                                  Imho this is not about what position we hold on football hooligans or on violence against police under different circumstances.

                                  This is about whether the police can be trusted (ha!) if it uses AI fakes to “illustrate” acts of violence. There might even be (legal, moral or other) reasons for not using actual footage - but then just report on the facts without a photo. It’s that simple.

                                  David CulleyD 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • Aline BlankertzA Aline Blankertz

                                    @davidculley

                                    Imho this is not about what position we hold on football hooligans or on violence against police under different circumstances.

                                    This is about whether the police can be trusted (ha!) if it uses AI fakes to “illustrate” acts of violence. There might even be (legal, moral or other) reasons for not using actual footage - but then just report on the facts without a photo. It’s that simple.

                                    David CulleyD This user is from outside of this forum
                                    David CulleyD This user is from outside of this forum
                                    David Culley
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #21

                                    @alineblankertz Yes! Better no picture than an AI-generated one.

                                    While you were writing your comment, I completely revamped my initial post. I don't know if you already saw it. I had to admit that I wrote my initial post too rashly.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • David CulleyD David Culley

                                      German police¹ is using ChatGPT to fake images of injured police officers.

                                      After a soccer match with believable hooligan violence against police officers, the German union of police officers (GdP) rightly condemns violence against police officers.

                                      However, instead of using real footage for their press release² of the actual violence that was actually committed, they used some AI-generated fake image and denoted that fact only with a teeny-tiny note in the corner, saying "AI-generated: ChatGPT".

                                      I find this very problematic.

                                      The news report mentioned several injured police officers, some badly injured, and the fake image shows an officer bleeding from his forehead. I have no way to know if any officer was actually bleeding from his head or if this is an exaggeration to make a point. In a time when politicians call for ever more surveillance and ever more power for police officers, this can function as dangerous misinformation.

                                      Especially considering that the Nazis are growing ever stronger and our so-called democratic political parties are building a police state for them. Manufacturing consent using fake images of violence against police officers is dangerous.

                                      Although this was a soccer match, not an anti-genocide protest, and soccer matches occasionally attract violent hooligans, protests are almost always peaceful. At least until the police starts the violence and beats up anyone who protests against fossil fuels or genocide. If we allow police to use AI-generated images in their press releases, then we cannot believe them anything anymore at all. If people still believe them, anyway.

                                      Condemning violence only when it hits them is also hypocritical.

                                      Police is already instigating and inciting against imagined "violent radical leftists", even before/without the use of AI fakes.

                                      The GdP isn't innocent. Just two months ago when the modern NSDAP wanted to start their Hitler Youth equivalent and people peacefully blocked the roads, whereafter the police played taxi for officially recognized Nazis, the GdP said "the radical leftists showed their ugly face and violence".

                                      It's inacceptable for the police to fake images of violence against police.

                                      ¹ Sachsen, not even the infamous Berlin police
                                      ² https://www.gdp.de/sachsen/de/stories/2026/01/gewalt-im-fussballspiel-magdeburg-gegen-dresden

                                      WeraweltW This user is from outside of this forum
                                      WeraweltW This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Werawelt
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #22

                                      @davidculley Ich stimme dem zu, dass zur Darstellung der erlittenen Gewalt der #Polizei durch die Hooligans keine KI-Bilder von der Polizei oder anderen staatlichen Stellen verbreitet werden sollten. Niemand braucht sowas! Habe sowas hier auch schon von einer politischen Partei gesehen, die reale Politiker mit KI verfälschte. Ich bin grundsätzlich gegen "Fotos" und Videos von #KI. Diese Art der Verfälschung als angebliches Foto zerstört das Vertrauen in Fotos allgemein.
                                      Heute glauben wir noch den Handy-Videos aus Minneanapolis. Doch werden wir das noch in 10 Jahren können? KI zerstört hiermit die #Demokratie.

                                      W 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • NetravenN Netraven

                                        @davidculley Why the “it’s just symbolic / AI” defense rings hollow

                                        Because the harm isn’t about deception in a narrow sense (“this exact event happened”). It’s about legitimizing a power narrative:

                                        We are the injured, reasonable authority; they are the threatening crowd.

                                        AI just makes it cheaper, faster, and safer for institutions to manufacture that affect without accountability.

                                        NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                                        NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Netraven
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #23

                                        @davidculley

                                        I was able to generate almost the exact same image and submitted a report that ChatGPT shouldn’t be making propaganda.

                                        They answered and indicated no policy was violated. 🤦‍♂️

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • WeraweltW This user is from outside of this forum
                                          WeraweltW This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Werawelt
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #24

                                          @Su_G 🙂 @davidculley

                                          utopiArteU 1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups