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"I came here in a taxi with the number 1729.

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  • Simon TathamS This user is from outside of this forum
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    "I came here in a taxi with the number 1729. What a dull number that is."

    "On the contrary, it's a very interesting number! When it appears on my clock, it means it's one minute to going-home time."

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      "I came here in a taxi with the number 1729. What a dull number that is."

      "On the contrary, it's a very interesting number! When it appears on my clock, it means it's one minute to going-home time."

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      @simontatham wasn't there some quote about it being some Ramanujan number or smth? I remember the first part from somewhere. Maybe not the same number but could be. (Ah yeah wikipedia says it is. Must be true then. 😋)

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        "I came here in a taxi with the number 1729. What a dull number that is."

        "On the contrary, it's a very interesting number! When it appears on my clock, it means it's one minute to going-home time."

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          @simontatham wasn't there some quote about it being some Ramanujan number or smth? I remember the first part from somewhere. Maybe not the same number but could be. (Ah yeah wikipedia says it is. Must be true then. 😋)

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          @cobratbq yes – that's the original version which I'm spoofing.

          Hardy went to see Ramanujan and remarked that his taxi had had that dull number. Ramanujan knew it wasn't dull, because it's 10³ + 9³ and also 12³ + 1³, and no smaller integer can be written as two different sums of cubes like that.

          (I presume he knew that because he'd once noticed that 12³=1728 and 9³=729 ended in nearly the same digits, and followed up to see if there was an interesting consequence of that.)

          That story was enough to make 1729 a very famous integer among mathematicians. But it later turned out to have a _second_ interesting property! It's also a Carmichael number, which are numbers that look enough like primes to consistently fool the otherwise-pretty-good Fermat primality test, even though they aren't prime at all.

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            @cobratbq yes – that's the original version which I'm spoofing.

            Hardy went to see Ramanujan and remarked that his taxi had had that dull number. Ramanujan knew it wasn't dull, because it's 10³ + 9³ and also 12³ + 1³, and no smaller integer can be written as two different sums of cubes like that.

            (I presume he knew that because he'd once noticed that 12³=1728 and 9³=729 ended in nearly the same digits, and followed up to see if there was an interesting consequence of that.)

            That story was enough to make 1729 a very famous integer among mathematicians. But it later turned out to have a _second_ interesting property! It's also a Carmichael number, which are numbers that look enough like primes to consistently fool the otherwise-pretty-good Fermat primality test, even though they aren't prime at all.

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            @simontatham i don't think I knew the part about Carmichael number.

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              @simontatham i don't think I knew the part about Carmichael number.

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              @cobratbq no, I think people who tell the Ramanujan story don't normally go on to mention that connection.

              People who teach about Carmichael numbers totally do, though!

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