Dear every programmer working on websites and browsers:

Darren

@joby The sad thing is that I actually feel some goodwill towards software developers (building software myself) And believe that truly beautiful software thrives on constant user feedback and that if you make it easy for all your users to help you, you can build something beautiful. Nobody is interested in that business model anymore. Sadly the most broken bits of software also not coincidentally have the worst feedback systems. I once tried to report a bug for something in the Microsoft store and it went to the feedback hub and then it broke the feedback hub and then I moved on.

Snosrapkungfu (They/them)

@Happyfishmedia @joby you made the options wrong, they should be "yes", and "next month when we make it mandatory hahaha lol kthxbye"

Reinald Kirchner

@joby @Happyfishmedia oh, that feels very 90th

Chris Kletsch

@joby I think ypu are not sure about what you want, perhaps we just do it anyway?

Alan is @cogdog 🇨🇦

@joby Also

IF YOU INSIST ON ASKING FOR MY EMAIL I FULLY EXPECT TO BE (angrily) UNSUBSCRIBING FROM YOUR SPAM LIST I DID NOT ASK TO BE ON

zompus

@joby There's an opportunity to turn this into a Green Eggs and Ham-style rhyme.

Jo Shields

@joby @DavidNielsen 15% off your first order, just insert your email address into this modal dialog!!

Eggs now in different baskets.

@joby I turn off location on all my devices for privacy and because the public IP address my internet connection uses is geo-located to a spot over 150 kilometers from where I live.

There is no point in getting a recommendation for great pizzas from a restaurant two and a half hours drive away.

That travelling time is by car. It would take a lot longer for the moped delivery person to arrive with our order.

And with the weather as it is at this time of year the pizzas would arrive frozen.

Eggs now in different baskets.

@Happyfishmedia @joby In a former life working fixing PCs I did actually encounter a browser where the space for the web page content was a thin strip at the bottom of the screen.

This was due to multiple third-party "search bars" having been unwittingly installed by the user.

I remember having to avoid installing a search bar each time I updated Adobe flash.

I sure do miss the old days (NOT).

Chris Oliver

You don’t? OK. Well ask you again later:

https://blog.prototypr.io/not-now-a91c75ad35b6

babble encat

@joby "Use the app? Or continue with Chrome?"

Fuck you I'm not using Chrome

? Offline

@dplattsf @joby now I give feedback when they ask: every time I'm interrupted in my work by their popup to get my opinion on their site, that's the minimal note for them. I always leave a comment to explain that the site is bad because of the popup.
The bar was low: don't disturb; and they failed.
Not sure that it's worth anything but I feel better nonetheless.

epicdemiologist

@joby But enough about what YOU want!

Piko Starsider :verified_paw:

@joby I wholeheartedly agree. And most devs probably do, too. Unfortunately they don't make that crap by choice. The problem here are the fuckers with money calling the shots.

Simon EI3JDB

@joby I do not want your cookies.
I do not want your app.
I don't give a * about your "legitimate interest"

Kakurady (🔜 NFC, FE)

@joby I bet someone got a really nice bonus for that feature https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20061101-03/?p=29153

Simon EI3JDB

@cogdog @joby I own a domain. You will get an email address unique to you. If it gets spam, it will be black-holed (and, most likely, so will you.)

Jochen Wolters

@joby @markhurst Should you just so happen to be using Apple Safari as your browser, the extension Stop The Madness Pro will tackle most of those nuisances for you.

Jochen Wolters

@dplattsf @joby You can find plenty of small, indie software shops that produce absolutely beautiful software, and listen to their users.

I wish they'd get more publicity in the current debate about #enshittification, and precisely because they “still” _do_ follow that customer-oriented business model that you outline, Darren.

Some companies that come to mind (for the Mac): Red Sweater, Flying Meat (seriously! ), Shiny Frog, Panic, Icon Factory, Omni Group, …

bamfic

@joby I DO NOT WANT YOUR FUCKING APP