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Goddamn "private mention" is hard to use safely.

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  • Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:A This user is from outside of this forum
    Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:A This user is from outside of this forum
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    Goddamn "private mention" is hard to use safely.

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    • Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:A Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:

      Goddamn "private mention" is hard to use safely.

      Matt BlazeM This user is from outside of this forum
      Matt BlazeM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @adamshostack now you will be lectured about how it’s completely fine, and any mishaps are the users’ fault.

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      • Matt BlazeM Matt Blaze

        @adamshostack now you will be lectured about how it’s completely fine, and any mishaps are the users’ fault.

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        @mattblaze @adamshostack 😭 damn this stings

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        • Matt BlazeM Matt Blaze

          @adamshostack now you will be lectured about how it’s completely fine, and any mishaps are the users’ fault.

          Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:A This user is from outside of this forum
          Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:A This user is from outside of this forum
          Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:
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          @mattblaze

          ----- Begin PGP Encrypted Message -----

          The magic words are "users fault"

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          • Matt BlazeM Matt Blaze

            @adamshostack now you will be lectured about how it’s completely fine, and any mishaps are the users’ fault.

            Paul_IPv6P This user is from outside of this forum
            Paul_IPv6P This user is from outside of this forum
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            @mattblaze @adamshostack

            pretty sure "blame the user" is the first, last, and only resort of those who can't be bothered to talk to users or worry about UI/UX design.

            if they are getting paid for it, they might alternate "blame the user" with "works fine on my machine".

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            • Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:A Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:

              @mattblaze

              ----- Begin PGP Encrypted Message -----

              The magic words are "users fault"

              Christian HuitemaH This user is from outside of this forum
              Christian HuitemaH This user is from outside of this forum
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              @adamshostack @mattblaze A quick search shows at least one project attempting to extend Activity Pub and offer MLS protected messages. But the link is for a project description, not the actual code. I have no idea how far along they are developing this.

              https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/12/19/implementing-encrypted-messaging-over-activitypub/

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              • Christian HuitemaH Christian Huitema

                @adamshostack @mattblaze A quick search shows at least one project attempting to extend Activity Pub and offer MLS protected messages. But the link is for a project description, not the actual code. I have no idea how far along they are developing this.

                https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/12/19/implementing-encrypted-messaging-over-activitypub/

                Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:A This user is from outside of this forum
                Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:A This user is from outside of this forum
                Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:
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                @huitema @mattblaze That doesn't actually solve the problem, which is that I was responding to a private message, and ... something in the UI made my post a public one. I discovered that when someone not mentioned fave'd it.

                I assume the same UI would have &*() me either way.

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                • Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:A Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:

                  @huitema @mattblaze That doesn't actually solve the problem, which is that I was responding to a private message, and ... something in the UI made my post a public one. I discovered that when someone not mentioned fave'd it.

                  I assume the same UI would have &*() me either way.

                  Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:A This user is from outside of this forum
                  Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:A This user is from outside of this forum
                  Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:
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                  @huitema @mattblaze In precisely the same way that its UI decided that me banging on the keyboard for swear characters was a superscript!

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                  • Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:A Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:

                    @huitema @mattblaze That doesn't actually solve the problem, which is that I was responding to a private message, and ... something in the UI made my post a public one. I discovered that when someone not mentioned fave'd it.

                    I assume the same UI would have &*() me either way.

                    Paul_IPv6P This user is from outside of this forum
                    Paul_IPv6P This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @adamshostack @huitema @mattblaze

                    yeah... private mention definitely violates the principle of least astonishment really hard.

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