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I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

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  • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

    I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

    People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

    So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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    @danirabbit The last 10% is the hardest bit, but the first 90% is the most effective. "Don't let perfect be the enemy of good", as the saying goes.

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    • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

      I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

      People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

      So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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      @danirabbit Hooray for small positive changes! Yes!

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      • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

        I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

        People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

        So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

        Jered FloydJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @danirabbit I love this. There’s precedent too — I know lots of people who are kosher+bacon.

        Really, you can also just … commit to eating more vegetables. Have a steak once in a while as a treat! Just think about your goals in meals rather than being on autopilot.

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        • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

          I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

          People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

          So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

          Sordid Amok!S This user is from outside of this forum
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          @danirabbit So weird that it's bacon. I've been vegetarian for 27 years and I don't miss bacon at all. There are many forms of meat that I remember being a lot better.

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          • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

            I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

            People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

            So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

            BeeCyclingB This user is from outside of this forum
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            @danirabbit I'm sort of like that, although it's vegan plus eggs, cheese and yoghurt. (Cheese and yoghurt are hard to find vegan versions of and eggs I just flipping love.) Otherwise I only very rarely eat meat or fish and I use oat milk.

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            • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

              I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

              People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

              So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

              shadowwwindS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @danirabbit my parents would never stop eating meat, cheese or milk. However they found a vegan butter replacement and use that all the time now.

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              • BeeCyclingB BeeCycling

                @danirabbit I'm sort of like that, although it's vegan plus eggs, cheese and yoghurt. (Cheese and yoghurt are hard to find vegan versions of and eggs I just flipping love.) Otherwise I only very rarely eat meat or fish and I use oat milk.

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                @danirabbit Which I know, sounds more like vegetarian, but I suppose vegetarian is vegan + anyway.

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                • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                  I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                  People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                  So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                  Fabio ValentiniD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Fabio Valentini
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                  #33

                  @danirabbit yes! making small steps in the right direction is still better than being daunted and not ending up moving at all 🙌🏻

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                  • raptor :C_H:R raptor :C_H:

                    @danirabbit vegan recipes plus bacon is actually a surprisingly good food 💯

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                    historical rhyme; lots of northerly peasant food is vegan with only a little bacon and buttermilk because even if they could raise meat and dairy they had to *sell* most of that -- little lardoons of bacon, and the buttermilk left over after making butter for market, is the home food

                    Also delicious so

                    @raptor @danirabbit

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                    • ChewieC Chewie

                      @danirabbit Exactly.

                      It has taken me a long time to be "mostly" vegetarian.
                      People change their diet quickly, and then complain and whinge and don't stick to it.

                      Of course that's going to be hard, unless you've got serious will-power.

                      First I started eating veggie stuff at work for lunch as it was really nice, but still having "normal" meals at night with my family.

                      Over the years I ate less and less meat, and found good alternatives (some even my meat-eating other half likes).

                      I found some good cheese alternatives.
                      I found a nice tea that doesn't require milk.
                      I use plant milks for pretty much everything.

                      I thought i'd never give up bacon, but I don't really miss it. I don't think i've had bacon for more than a year now.
                      I can smell it when other people are cooking it, but it doesn't really bother me.

                      I'm still far from being vegan, but i'm getting close....

                      The last thing I need to cut out is butter and cheese.

                      Vegan food has come a long way from the 80s and 90s when it was just crappy dry "nut roasts" and things like that.

                      There's no excuse not to at least eat more vegan stuff. There's so much choice now.

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                      @chewie @danirabbit Learning how to use spices also helps tremendously. I recently discovered lemon ginger rice. Chickpeas take spices a lot like chicken. Curries, tikka masala, vindaloo, North African tagines, and more generally do really well with chickpeas instead of meat.

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                      • ZimmieB Zimmie

                        @chewie @danirabbit Learning how to use spices also helps tremendously. I recently discovered lemon ginger rice. Chickpeas take spices a lot like chicken. Curries, tikka masala, vindaloo, North African tagines, and more generally do really well with chickpeas instead of meat.

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                        @bob_zim @danirabbit very true!

                        I love veggie curries. They don't need to be "hot" spicy, but they taste really nice.
                        We have a good selection of takeaways and restaurants locally, as we have a relatively large Indian population.

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                        • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                          I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                          People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                          So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                          @danirabbit I mean until my health issued forced me back on meat, I never had chicken anymore, it is the most trivial thing to replace and pork I only had bacon or dried sausages

                          like yeah, we still ate some amount of beef and fish, but 5 out of 7 days tended to end up meat free by chance

                          (sadly health issues have made chicken kind of mandatory, best amino acid balance for humans, and given how little I can eat, I kind of need that)

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                          • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                            Maybe you can’t buy everything local. What one thing can you start buying local? Can you switch from Starbucks to the local coffee shop? Can you switch from Petco to the local pet feed store? Can you switch from Dominoes to a local pizza place?

                            Maybe you can’t completely de-Google or de-Apple or de-Amazon your life. Can you switch one thing? Can you use DuckDuckGo? Move your passwords to Bitwarden? Open a Fastmail account?

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                            @danirabbit
                            I'm getting there. Still got Android on this phone because it was cheap and there's no AOSP based OS for it. And still watch YouTube (via FreeTube) for entertainment.

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                            • Tyla (Combat Waifu Yuri Arc)F Tyla (Combat Waifu Yuri Arc)

                              @danirabbit I definitely think we need a lot more “harm reduction” and a lot less “if you are not perfect you are the enemy.”

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                              @FinalGirl @danirabbit Or "ham" reduction, in this case.

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                              • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                                People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                                So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                                @danirabbit big +1 for just going for a more vegetable heavy diet. They’re wayyy hardier in the fridge so I deal with way less food spoiling on me, and my insides felt way better when I gave up eating meat everyday.

                                When I was a little kid every Sunday my dad would get up early to make everyone eggs and sausage and the nostalgia of how much I still enjoy that for breakfast sometimes is hard to let go, but I can def have veggie pasta for dinner like 3 nights a week

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                                • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                  I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                                  People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                                  So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                                  TwotiredT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @danirabbit For a few years while transitioning to a vegetarian (not vegan) diet, I described myself as an ovo-lacto-pepperonio vegetarian.

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                                  • clewC clew

                                    historical rhyme; lots of northerly peasant food is vegan with only a little bacon and buttermilk because even if they could raise meat and dairy they had to *sell* most of that -- little lardoons of bacon, and the buttermilk left over after making butter for market, is the home food

                                    Also delicious so

                                    @raptor @danirabbit

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                                    @clew @danirabbit exactly so!

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                                    • Tyla (Combat Waifu Yuri Arc)F Tyla (Combat Waifu Yuri Arc)

                                      @danirabbit I definitely think we need a lot more “harm reduction” and a lot less “if you are not perfect you are the enemy.”

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                                      @FinalGirl Fully with you on this.

                                      @danirabbit

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                                      • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                        I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                                        People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                                        So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                                        Opticacia
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                                        @danirabbit
                                        I don't actually hate this but it's just reinventing the idea of vegetarianism.

                                        & maybe that does need some rejuvinating & maybe that'll do some good in the world, still it's really not veganism.

                                        I don't think it's cool to benefit from the moral associations of veganism without the hard work (being an animal use abolitionist).

                                        I guess vegetarianism is kinda lame nowadays (now we say plant-based or plant forward or 'vegan'), & part of that is because veganism makes it look obsolete, but you can't just take the name without doing the work.

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                                        • OpticaciaO Opticacia

                                          @danirabbit
                                          I don't actually hate this but it's just reinventing the idea of vegetarianism.

                                          & maybe that does need some rejuvinating & maybe that'll do some good in the world, still it's really not veganism.

                                          I don't think it's cool to benefit from the moral associations of veganism without the hard work (being an animal use abolitionist).

                                          I guess vegetarianism is kinda lame nowadays (now we say plant-based or plant forward or 'vegan'), & part of that is because veganism makes it look obsolete, but you can't just take the name without doing the work.

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                                          @Opticacia I don’t know if you know this but bacon is not a vegetable

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