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We need more 10Gbps or higher dedicated servers for hosting our OS and app updates.

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  • GrapheneOSG GrapheneOS

    We need more 10Gbps or higher dedicated servers for hosting our OS and app updates. We have North America covered well enough via sponsored servers from ReliableSite in both Miami and Los Angeles and a sponsored server from Xenyth in Toronto but no longer have any left in Europe.

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    @GrapheneOS @hetzner

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    • GrapheneOSG GrapheneOS

      We need more 10Gbps or higher dedicated servers for hosting our OS and app updates. We have North America covered well enough via sponsored servers from ReliableSite in both Miami and Los Angeles and a sponsored server from Xenyth in Toronto but no longer have any left in Europe.

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      @GrapheneOS Couldn't some kind of P2P distribution help? The update downloader could be basically aΒ non-seeding Bittorrent client and your servers be seeding clients. At worst case nothing changes for your but this way it is very easy for volunteers to seed it on their own meaning anyone can set up an update mirror without any coordination required.

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      • GrapheneOSG GrapheneOS

        We can afford to pay for a couple 10Gbps servers in Europe if needed but it would be better if we could get them sponsored. For Europe, we use an average of 1Gbps to 2Gbps over the course of a month but it's very bursty so we need 10Gbps to 20Gbps total capacity for it in Europe.

        Fab :verifiedpurple:O This user is from outside of this forum
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        @GrapheneOS Try contacting some big enough #EU hosting provider (#infomaniak, #ovh, #hetzner)

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        • GrapheneOSG GrapheneOS

          We need more 10Gbps or higher dedicated servers for hosting our OS and app updates. We have North America covered well enough via sponsored servers from ReliableSite in both Miami and Los Angeles and a sponsored server from Xenyth in Toronto but no longer have any left in Europe.

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          I was already a fan of ReliableSite. They've got good pricing for high-spec servers.

          Now that I've learned that they sponsor GrapheneOS, I'm gonna be a more loyal customer.

          Stop giving your money to AWS/Azure/GC etc.

          It's ironic that so many projects host freedom tech on big tech.

          https://www.reliablesite.net/
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          • Fab :verifiedpurple:O Fab :verifiedpurple:

            @GrapheneOS Try contacting some big enough #EU hosting provider (#infomaniak, #ovh, #hetzner)

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            Simon Zerafa (Status: :meowBox: 😊)
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            @occirol @GrapheneOS

            I was also going to suggest @hetzner

            They are fairly big and Germany is becoming the European center for privacy (or the least worst) after the nonsense Switzerland and France 🀨

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            • GrapheneOSG GrapheneOS

              We can afford to pay for it but hosting companies providing sponsorships saves significant money we can use to pay more developers to improve privacy, security, usability and compatibility for GrapheneOS. We document server sponsors on our servers page: https://grapheneos.org/articles/grapheneos-servers#releases.grapheneos.org.

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              It doesn't necessarily need to be fully sponsored. If we could pay for servers at cost and especially cheaper access to bandwidth based on actual transit/peering costs that would help a lot. 10Gbps unmetered is usually quite expensive and also inefficient since our use is bursty.

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              • Simon Zerafa (Status: :meowBox: 😊)S Simon Zerafa (Status: :meowBox: 😊)

                @occirol @GrapheneOS

                I was also going to suggest @hetzner

                They are fairly big and Germany is becoming the European center for privacy (or the least worst) after the nonsense Switzerland and France 🀨

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                @simonzerafa @occirol @hetzner Hetzner's pricing for 10GB is $1/TB with barely any bandwidth included which isn't comparable to their usual extremely low pricing. It's competitive but it starts being nearly as much as paying for 10Gbps unmetered which we can get for around $500 from other providers. We currently use around 300TB in a typical month for Europe so with 1 server that would be $300 which is reasonable but not great. We can afford it if we have to do it.

                https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/network/10g-uplink/

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                • GrapheneOSG GrapheneOS

                  It doesn't necessarily need to be fully sponsored. If we could pay for servers at cost and especially cheaper access to bandwidth based on actual transit/peering costs that would help a lot. 10Gbps unmetered is usually quite expensive and also inefficient since our use is bursty.

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                  Hey @init7, how about sponsoring a server for @GrapheneOS?

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                  • Simon Zerafa (Status: :meowBox: 😊)S Simon Zerafa (Status: :meowBox: 😊)

                    @occirol @GrapheneOS

                    I was also going to suggest @hetzner

                    They are fairly big and Germany is becoming the European center for privacy (or the least worst) after the nonsense Switzerland and France 🀨

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                    @simonzerafa @GrapheneOS I do not know for France, but Switzerland (for now) isn't such a nonsense in regard of privacy laws.

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                    • GrapheneOSG GrapheneOS

                      @simonzerafa @occirol @hetzner Hetzner's pricing for 10GB is $1/TB with barely any bandwidth included which isn't comparable to their usual extremely low pricing. It's competitive but it starts being nearly as much as paying for 10Gbps unmetered which we can get for around $500 from other providers. We currently use around 300TB in a typical month for Europe so with 1 server that would be $300 which is reasonable but not great. We can afford it if we have to do it.

                      https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/network/10g-uplink/

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                      Simon Zerafa (Status: :meowBox: 😊)
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                      @GrapheneOS @occirol @hetzner

                      I wonder if @beasts in the UK might be able to help? They are a fairly cool bunch so they might be able to help πŸ˜‡

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