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  3. I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed.

I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed.

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  • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

    They are doing everything they can to make it happen: the endless escalations, the recklessness, the shoddy training, the quotas, the sense of impunity, the masks, the bounty hunters, the right-wing camera crews following them like ducklings, the redoubling of provocations after ICE murdered Good: what does it point to except baiting, a total non-concern for the lives of ICE officers, a wish to get at least one of them shot on camera?

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    Renee Good is a crisis for the Trump regime: not because they care about her life, but because ICE murdering her makes ICE look bad. They’ve been telling all these stories about all the imaginary violence ICE officers face. In their minds, it’s the people on the streets who were supposed to lose their cool first. Now they’re falling over themselves to make that happen.

    We just want ICE gone, but their bosses want them dead. And no, I’m sure they do not understand this.

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    • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

      I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed. That’s the pretext they desperately want.

      https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3m7ofznbtsk2v

      sortius :Fire_Bisexual:S This user is from outside of this forum
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      @inthehands you do get they don't need "pretext"? They've already gained total control

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      • Irenes (many)I Irenes (many)

        @inthehands yes, well, a pretext is only accomplishing anything to the extent there's anyone convinced by it

        for example, moderates in positions of power

        at some point, with the administration's habit of killing people, even the most nihilistic moderate is going to have trouble feeling like the people fighting back are the ones escalating

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        @ireneista
        Yes, that is the bind they find themselves in now. They need an ICE agent killed fast.

        Grim stuff.

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        • sortius :Fire_Bisexual:S sortius :Fire_Bisexual:

          @inthehands you do get they don't need "pretext"? They've already gained total control

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          @sortius
          No they have not. This is a dangerously false and wrongheaded throwaway reply.

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          • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

            @sortius
            No they have not. This is a dangerously false and wrongheaded throwaway reply.

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            @sortius
            Written for someone else, but also for you:

            https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115860687777099579

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            • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

              @sortius
              No they have not. This is a dangerously false and wrongheaded throwaway reply.

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              @inthehands dude, you're playing it like it's February 1933, you're at January 1939... it's too late to talk about not giving them pretext.

              You're just collaborating your way to oblivion

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              • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                @sortius
                Written for someone else, but also for you:

                https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115860687777099579

                Paul CantrellI This user is from outside of this forum
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                @sortius
                Possibly also relevant:

                https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115865700698134339

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                • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                  @sortius
                  Written for someone else, but also for you:

                  https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115860687777099579

                  sortius :Fire_Bisexual:S This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @inthehands not really keen to read it after your previous reply

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                  • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                    @sortius
                    Possibly also relevant:

                    https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115865700698134339

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                    @sortius Lastly, mostly for others reading the replies because I am probably about to block you for your obnoxiousness:

                    https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115866146267364003

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                    • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                      @sortius Lastly, mostly for others reading the replies because I am probably about to block you for your obnoxiousness:

                      https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115866146267364003

                      sortius :Fire_Bisexual:S This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @inthehands mate, you're the obnoxious one.

                      Your country has fallen and you're talking about pretext. They shot someone in broad daylight in front of cameras and witnesses.

                      They do not care, and you're the problem, along with everyone sitting there saying "let's put on frog suits"

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                      • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                        @sortius Lastly, mostly for others reading the replies because I am probably about to block you for your obnoxiousness:

                        https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115866146267364003

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                        @sortius@infosec.exchange Already blocked him, but just one more to close out the thread, in case anybody else from halfway around the world wants to splain my city to me:

                        https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/110079454709159458

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                        • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                          I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed. That’s the pretext they desperately want.

                          https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3m7ofznbtsk2v

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                          @inthehands Very plausible. Especially since that's the same script as Jan6. Then it eventually became clear the idea was to see Pence or Pelosi or, hell, any old Congresscritter or recognizable name killed. That would open the way to declaring martial law (or facsimile thereof using some pet agency?).

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                          • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                            I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed. That’s the pretext they desperately want.

                            https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3m7ofznbtsk2v

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                            @inthehands surely the leopards won't eat THEIR face?

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                            • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                              I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed. That’s the pretext they desperately want.

                              https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3m7ofznbtsk2v

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                              @inthehands boosting though my boost would do nothing to help (i.e., get this message to people who are ICE agents who may still be under any illusions that they are serving the right people somehow)
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                              • not obscene, just deeply concerningA not obscene, just deeply concerning
                                @inthehands boosting though my boost would do nothing to help (i.e., get this message to people who are ICE agents who may still be under any illusions that they are serving the right people somehow)
                                full metal bitch :labrys-bloody: Y This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @apophis @inthehands anyone who joins ICE already knows they arnt the good guys and doesn't care. They're here specifically to kill and traffic people
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                                • sortius :Fire_Bisexual:S sortius :Fire_Bisexual:

                                  @inthehands not really keen to read it after your previous reply

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                                  @sortius @inthehands You’re not missing anything beyond an anecdote about earmuffs and a tacit dismissal of your POV because you don’t live here (which isn’t really much of a counter argument).

                                  But I do and I absolutely agree with the person that doesn’t live here, who can see things more clearly IMO.

                                  If an ICE agent gets killed or not only tweaks the existing situation at the margins. They can make that happen themselves or fabricate the situation as needed, frankly.

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                                  • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                                    I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed. That’s the pretext they desperately want.

                                    https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3m7ofznbtsk2v

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                                    @inthehands oh, more than a couple.

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                                    • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                                      I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed. That’s the pretext they desperately want.

                                      https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3m7ofznbtsk2v

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                                      @inthehands They came close with that gun nut getting murdered on stage, but didn't quite get their Horst Wessel moment. That's what they're gunning for.

                                      I wonder what their Reichstag Fire will be?

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                                      • full metal bitch :labrys-bloody: Y full metal bitch :labrys-bloody:
                                        @apophis @inthehands anyone who joins ICE already knows they arnt the good guys and doesn't care. They're here specifically to kill and traffic people
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                                        @yohan @apophis

                                        Indeed, but I’ll bet they aren’t here specifically to get killed so they can be right-wing meme fodder

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                                        • D DigitalPatch

                                          @sortius @inthehands You’re not missing anything beyond an anecdote about earmuffs and a tacit dismissal of your POV because you don’t live here (which isn’t really much of a counter argument).

                                          But I do and I absolutely agree with the person that doesn’t live here, who can see things more clearly IMO.

                                          If an ICE agent gets killed or not only tweaks the existing situation at the margins. They can make that happen themselves or fabricate the situation as needed, frankly.

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                                          @sortius @inthehands There isn’t some escalating rule book here, where if A happens, then B happens, it all tips over and it’s game over.

                                          You have a regime of power hungry opportunists who will seize or fabricate any situation needed to further entrench and enrich themselves. We’ve already tipped over; it’s just a matter of degree and whether or not it’s reversible, and to what degree, if at all.

                                          Anyone that has lived elsewhere will be familiar with what’s going on here.

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