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  3. if ibm is where companies go to die, microsoft is where companies go to intentionally punish, hurt, torment and traumatize their users

if ibm is where companies go to die, microsoft is where companies go to intentionally punish, hurt, torment and traumatize their users

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  • VissV Viss

    this is, incidentally, the same angle i have against k8s and docker.

    if you build a thing that is supposed to have the ability to do firewalling, natting, do acls, rules, follow policies and whatnot - and its intended use is "on a linux box", and you decide "to reinvent the entire fucking universe as npm, js, and custom shit instead of using the already inbuilt stuff in linux" you have made a serious architectural error and it will haunt you forever.

    assuming your thing lives that long

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    this extends beyond just github yaml.
    home assistant lives here too

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    • VissV Viss

      @paul_ipv6 well mysql went to oracle and it just punished every mysql user

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      @Viss

      i think oracle just wanted to have all mysql users kill themselves so it could claim it wasn't the killer for a change but yeah...

      any company email stating "we have been acquired by oracle" is a sign for customers to bolt and employees to start the job hunt.

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      • VarxV Varx

        @Viss Its why tech executives think LLMs are AGI and conscious ... Because they think at the same level. Word salad slop.

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        @varx hey its vince with slaptchop, and yer gonna be in a great mood all day!

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        • VissV Viss

          this extends beyond just github yaml.
          home assistant lives here too

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          @Viss most kubernetes has this pain everywhere too. One setup I worked on I counted 5 layers of template processing between the config in git and the config the application would read.

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          • VissV Viss

            this is, incidentally, the same angle i have against k8s and docker.

            if you build a thing that is supposed to have the ability to do firewalling, natting, do acls, rules, follow policies and whatnot - and its intended use is "on a linux box", and you decide "to reinvent the entire fucking universe as npm, js, and custom shit instead of using the already inbuilt stuff in linux" you have made a serious architectural error and it will haunt you forever.

            assuming your thing lives that long

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            @Viss 🎯

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            • Richard StephensR Richard Stephens

              @Viss most kubernetes has this pain everywhere too. One setup I worked on I counted 5 layers of template processing between the config in git and the config the application would read.

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              @richardstephens and 100% of the layers that exist inside of k8s do not need to exist at all, and function only as performative puffery nonsense so k8s people can gloat to other k8s people about how good they are with k8s.

              and 80% of the compute goes to those layers and abstraction, and not 'whatever the actual container is doing'

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              • VissV Viss

                if ibm is where companies go to die, microsoft is where companies go to intentionally punish, hurt, torment and traumatize their users

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                @Viss Do you have a link to the original post?
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                • Neil E. HodgesT Neil E. Hodges
                  @Viss Do you have a link to the original post?
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                  @tk

                  https://mastodon.social/@Viss/116019584392180387

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                  • VissV Viss

                    if ibm is where companies go to die, microsoft is where companies go to intentionally punish, hurt, torment and traumatize their users

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                    @Viss yeah.

                    The only reason I have it still in use is because they are basically un-#DDoS-able and I have 0 spoons nor budget to setup #SelfHosting and use #GitHub merely as a "public publishing fork" like @torvalds does for the #Linux #Kernel…

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                    • VissV Viss

                      so when my customers are doing incident response for the stuff I find, and that stuff is 'i have abused the shit out of some of your github actions, you should see what the log artifacts look like so we can write detections for it all' flavored - this is what we collectively grapple with.

                      microsoft, i remind you, is the company that CHARGES EXTRA FOR LOGS if you want to see if someone is trying password stuffing on your o365 instance

                      they make it intentionally painful, so they can sell a fix

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                      @Viss they don't want a fix, as they rely on the cottage industry of #Scareware-Blob vendors to continue peddling their garbage #Govware-OS!

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                      • VissV Viss

                        this is, incidentally, the same angle i have against k8s and docker.

                        if you build a thing that is supposed to have the ability to do firewalling, natting, do acls, rules, follow policies and whatnot - and its intended use is "on a linux box", and you decide "to reinvent the entire fucking universe as npm, js, and custom shit instead of using the already inbuilt stuff in linux" you have made a serious architectural error and it will haunt you forever.

                        assuming your thing lives that long

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                        @Viss yeah, #Memenetes and #Docker are worse than manually fiddling with #VM|s in #ESXi and #KVM!

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                        • VissV Viss

                          this extends beyond just github yaml.
                          home assistant lives here too

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                          @Viss #YAML is garbage.

                          • We should use #YADL instead.https://github.com/greyhat-academy/yadl
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