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What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

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  • 🆎B 🆎

    What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

    Moss (the τεχie) <(fsm)>{{M This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by
    #85

    @bloor
    Why didn’t they braid the power cable?

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    • 🆎B 🆎

      What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

      Ylfingr, Devourer of SunsY This user is from outside of this forum
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      Ylfingr, Devourer of Suns
      wrote last edited by
      #86

      @bloor HAVE THEY NOT HEARD OF SHIELDING???

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      • 🆎B 🆎

        What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

        Mans RM This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #87

        @bloor How about this one?

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        • 🆎B 🆎

          What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

          💜 🩷 Iconoclast Beryl 🩷 💜R This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #88

          @bloor how did I know this was audiophile related before noticing the captions?

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          • 🆎B 🆎

            What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

            the local MILFG This user is from outside of this forum
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            the local MILF
            wrote last edited by
            #89

            @bloor@bloor.tw that's that pokemon xurkitree

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            • Moss (the τεχie) <(fsm)>{{M Moss (the τεχie) <(fsm)>{{

              @bloor
              Why didn’t they braid the power cable?

              Derick RethansD This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #90

              @Moss_the_TeXie @bloor Too little opportunity for interference 😄

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              • lp0 on fire :unverified:L lp0 on fire :unverified:

                @bloor, I think that I'll just note that “wired” is an anagram of “weird” and leave it at that.

                (Also of “I drew”, but I don't think that that's relevant.)

                Loïc DenuzièreT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #91

                @lp0_on_fire
                This cable is actually also "wider".
                @bloor

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                • 🆎B 🆎

                  What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

                  Le Chep 🔜FOSDEMC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #92

                  @bloor is that a cope cage for the cable within, to defend against FPV drone-armed rabbits who'd like to chew on it ?

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                  • FeloniousPunkF FeloniousPunk

                    @secretbatcave @bloor “Loins booming” now there’s a description

                    The SecretbatcaveS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #93

                    @FeloniousPunk @bloor haaa, that was a typo, noise still stands

                    Probably best to imagine it as Lord flasheart from Blackadder

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                    • Turi🔞T This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @PeterLG @bloor

                      What's also pretty telling is the "power comes from the wall" mindset underlying this setup.

                      Unless they added these cables into the walls. And added a ton of filtering and smoothing.

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                      • Eric PhelpsE Eric Phelps

                        @bloor I think I see what they're trying to do. By breaking the wires up and interweaving them, my guess is they're trying to get the magnetic fields to cancel. Maybe minimize the magnetic coupling between the power and signal lines?

                        I think any improvement is going to be really minor, but I get it.

                        I think you could do something similar by splitting power through multiple pairs with differing twist rates (similar to how CAT6 cable is built). But that wouldn't look as AWESOME as this!

                        🆎B This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #95

                        @ericphelps there will be zero cancellation though, because they aren’t twisted and (i think) they’re single pole.

                        To my eye they’ve created a cage dipole. I think if anything it’ll pick up more rubbish.

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                        • 73 crafty cats and 3 pikasR 73 crafty cats and 3 pikas

                          @bloor I recall visiting a high-end audio shop maybe 25-30 years ago. They had a Denon single CD player, almost a cubic foot in volume, for $5000. I asked salesperson about "why?", and among its features was "no stray light can get and interfere with the laser." Hell, a runaway train couldn't budge it. Strangely, I did not purchase it.

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                          @ricosuave @bloor

                          That's why cameras are commonly a cubic foot in volume.

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                          • 🆎B 🆎

                            What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #97

                            @bloor this one is a perfect introduction to the game where you reverse engineer the audiophile's understanding of physics and electronics.

                            It's totally unhinged, and yet I can just see the common simplifications of crosstalk & stray capacitance that the designer latched onto. Amazing.

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                            • HiisikoloartH Hiisikoloart

                              @bloor
                              Speak to me like I am five and explain to me what is an "audiophile"? (^_^)

                              Vince 🔜 FOSDEMV This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
                              #98

                              @hiisikoloart @bloor people who use music to listen to their audio equipment, instead of the other way around.

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                              • veeteeV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #99

                                @flipper @bloor (not even joking)

                                https://www.dedicatedaudio.com/products/fospower-24k-gold-plated-toslink-digital-optical-audio-cable-s-pdif-3-ft

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                                • Stumpy The MuttS Stumpy The Mutt

                                  @bloor Bob Pease (R.I.P.) wrote an article a long time ago about "audiophile" speaker cables. He found plain old zip cord and even ribbon cable was just as effective.

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #100

                                  @StumpyTheMutt @bloor
                                  Of course, Pease's conclusion didn't surprise anyone with even modest electronics knowledge, but it is very satisfying to be able to point to the words of one of the all time great EEs, when some audiophool doesn't believe me.
                                  (But audiophools don't believe true experts, either. They only believe their preconceived notions, and those of other audiophools in their echo chambers.)

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                                  • 🆎B 🆎

                                    What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

                                    Simon Zerafa (Status: :meowBox: 😊)S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote last edited by
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                                    @bloor

                                    The difference between science, engineering and actually understanding the world and magic and mysticism 🙄🤦‍♂️

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                                    • The DoctorD The Doctor

                                      @dazo @tony @bloor I wish I'd thought of it.

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                                      @drwho @tony @bloor

                                      Oh, there are plenty of possibilities to "improve" this design further - or coming up with something else being even more absurd, shifting the revenue stream in your direction. There are always room for "improving" cables and it will always sell.

                                      But you need to be quite cynical playing on the psychology aspects related to making people believe they hear a difference - and have some quasi research papers supporting what they "hear". The rest is plain marketing and marketing strategies.

                                      And don't forget: In this user segment - the sound always gets better the more expensive the cables or equipment is.

                                      Good luck! 😉

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                                      • Mans RM Mans R

                                        @bloor How about this one?

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #103

                                        @mansr @bloor Is it more expensive than Odin 2?

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                                        • Sophie SchmiegS Sophie Schmieg

                                          @bloor ah yes, the maximally untwisted pair, for that extra interference on the signal lines. It greatly improves audio quality, or something.

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                                          #104

                                          @sophieschmieg @bloor looks like a antenna to me😅

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