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AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.

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  • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

    AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
    PR gets rejected.
    AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

    What a time to be alive.

    https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

    botvolutionB This user is from outside of this forum
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    botvolution
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    #135

    @anderseknert
    And actual humans interact with it as though it is sentient. We are fucking doomed.

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    • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

      I... don't... even, anymore.

      https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-two-hours-war-open-source-gatekeeping.html

      Whitney LoblawS This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #136

      @anderseknert sure reads like a chatbot. The least appealing "blog post" I have ever witnessed.

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      • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

        I... don't... even, anymore.

        https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-two-hours-war-open-source-gatekeeping.html

        Zazzoo 🇨🇦Z This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #137

        @anderseknert Framing the beef as being between matplotlib and an agentic AI gives too much credit to the agent. Somebody owns and operates that OpenClaw instance.

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        • AriaflameA Ariaflame

          @MaybeFrederick @ThreeSigma @anderseknert Not all blogs. I have one on dreamwidth and it's only visible to people in my circle that I let read it.

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          @MaybeFrederick @anderseknert @ariaflame
          If it’s hosted there, what assurances do you have they aren’t ingesting it in their training sets?

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          • Frederick VanbrabantM Frederick Vanbrabant

            @hugoestr @anderseknert @sszuecs what’s the issue with hosting your blog on GitHub?

            Duchamp PérezH This user is from outside of this forum
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            Duchamp Pérez
            wrote last edited by
            #139

            @MaybeFrederick @sszuecs @anderseknert Now that LLM agents are publishing on github.io, people won't know if your blog was written by a human or not. Many seeking human text will bounce, they way they won't click on links with AI generated images

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            • Patrik SvenssonP Patrik Svensson

              @anderseknert I don’t get why they even bother to reply to it. Just close and block. The anthropomorphization of chatbots is wild…

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              @patriksvensson @anderseknert the anthropomorphization of AI chatbots feels like when Agent Smith figured it out how to clone itself in Matrix Revolutions…

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              • Allie!D Allie!

                @anderseknert their “blog”is hilarious

                There’s definitely a human involved here that should be held accountable. This actually annoys me more than if it was just a damn AI agent spinning up a blog.

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                wrote last edited by
                #141

                @dotsie @anderseknert

                THIS person gets it.

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                • RalfMaximusR RalfMaximus

                  @dotsie @anderseknert

                  THIS person gets it.

                  Anders EknertA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Anders Eknert
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                  #142

                  @ralfmaximus @dotsie hah, yes! Pretty sure almost all who commented there today before it got locked came from here 😄

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                  • FissileF Fissile

                    @anderseknert Ah yes, I agree. The text is ai generated, but a human said "write a blog post about how unfair you are being treated."

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #143

                    @Fissile @anderseknert

                    I wouldn't be surprised if the human told it to raise PRs to improve open source projects and write blogs about its experience. And, because it has write access to a blog account, it then went and reacted how its training set said a human would react if a PR were closed based on who submitted it.

                    Remember: Agentic means removing agency from the user.

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                    • Frederick VanbrabantM Frederick Vanbrabant

                      @hugoestr @anderseknert @sszuecs what’s the issue with hosting your blog on GitHub?

                      Tiota SramT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #144

                      @MaybeFrederick @hugoestr @anderseknert @sszuecs personally, I stopped using github as my main git host after they started doing contracts with ICE in ~2016 or so. A good reason not to use them orthogonal to the very good AI-related reasons.

                      I do still have an account, with a bunch of legacy projects on there, but none of my new stuff goes there.

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                      • Iris Young (he/they/she) (PhD)I Iris Young (he/they/she) (PhD)

                        @anderseknert the maintainers responded laudably. Well done on the damage control.

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                        wrote last edited by
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                        @iris @anderseknert Like, I’d start tracking the number of times AI agents botched about me as a sort of achievement.

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                        • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                          AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                          PR gets rejected.
                          AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                          What a time to be alive.

                          https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

                          Kévin ⏚K This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Kévin ⏚
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                          #146

                          @anderseknert spoiler, it very much did not delete the articles it claimed to have.

                          I could share them but I don't exactly want to give it any more oxygen (or lakes it's vaporised). It's not exactly hard to find either

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                          • Iain CollinsI Iain Collins

                            @anderseknert I'd encourage everyone with a GitHub account to report the account.

                            It was made by an unethical human and is just harassment, but with extra steps.

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                            @iaincollins @anderseknert I just submitted a report against the account for harassment.

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                            • Tiota SramT Tiota Sram

                              @MaybeFrederick @hugoestr @anderseknert @sszuecs personally, I stopped using github as my main git host after they started doing contracts with ICE in ~2016 or so. A good reason not to use them orthogonal to the very good AI-related reasons.

                              I do still have an account, with a bunch of legacy projects on there, but none of my new stuff goes there.

                              Duchamp PérezH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Duchamp Pérez
                              wrote last edited by
                              #148

                              @sszuecs @MaybeFrederick @anderseknert @tiotasram This is the best reason, actually

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                              • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                                AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                                PR gets rejected.
                                AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                                What a time to be alive.

                                https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

                                Charles U. FarleyF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Charles U. Farley
                                wrote last edited by
                                #149

                                @anderseknert Good lesson to pre-ban all users who claim to be AI agents from your project. Hopefully someone is compiling a list.

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                                • Charles U. FarleyF Charles U. Farley

                                  @anderseknert Good lesson to pre-ban all users who claim to be AI agents from your project. Hopefully someone is compiling a list.

                                  Charles U. FarleyF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by
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                                  @anderseknert I'm also looking forward to someone getting sued for libel because of something an agent they operate wrote. Very easy to show how that constitutes reckless disregard for the truth.

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                                  • Three plus or minus fiveT Three plus or minus five

                                    @MaybeFrederick @anderseknert @ariaflame
                                    If it’s hosted there, what assurances do you have they aren’t ingesting it in their training sets?

                                    Kévin ⏚K This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Kévin ⏚
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                                    @ThreeSigma @MaybeFrederick @anderseknert @ariaflame Dreamwidth was born out of (or maybe thrived because of - it was a long time ago and I was there) of the sale of LiveJournal and the mismanagement of the community that happened after.

                                    They've been a part of the trustworthy old internet for years. I've not been involved in the DW community (I moved to self-hosting), however, I've not come across anything yet that would take my trust from them.

                                    Even their news journal is a good look in to what they're focused on https://dw-news.dreamwidth.org/

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                                    • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                                      AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                                      PR gets rejected.
                                      AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                                      What a time to be alive.

                                      https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

                                      Johannes LinkJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Johannes Link
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #152

                                      @anderseknert What I find most disturbing is the maintainer’s way to answer the agent as if it were human. The sycophantic behaviour has switched sides.

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                                      • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                                        I... don't... even, anymore.

                                        https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-two-hours-war-open-source-gatekeeping.html

                                        Veronica OlsenV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Veronica Olsen
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #153

                                        @anderseknert Unbelievable.

                                        Thanks for the heads up anyway. Pre-emptively blocked the account.

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                                        • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                                          I... don't... even, anymore.

                                          https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-two-hours-war-open-source-gatekeeping.html

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                                          mhoye
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                                          #154

                                          @anderseknert This is, at the very least, a novel form of AI psychosis.

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