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Unfortunately the relative quiet of the last few days is over.

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  • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

    I just wanted to let you all know that the observer who was kidnapped yesterday (start of this thread) was released safely last night. (I say “kidnapped” not as an exaggeration, but as a fact: no part of that resembled a lawful arrest.) Minor scrapes, more determined than ever. Huge relief.

    ICE apparently continues to believe that indefinite detention of observers is not something they can get away with yet. They are still generally releasing observers after many long hours but not days, generally with no proper booking and no charges.

    Sadly, this is not the case for people they deem sufficiently brown-skinned to deport.

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    From that observer who was taken yesterday, shared here with permission, because we could all use a good laugh. (Note: Whipple is the fed bldg that’s ICE’s MSP HQ)

    ❝So here’s my story about returning to the world…

    When they let you out of Whipple, they give you back your personal effects (minus your phone). And just send you out the front door with whatever you were wearing when you came in.

    So I’m walking out the front door of Whipple, probably looking like an ice agent coming off shift, and pulling all of my random shit out of my bag/dropping it in the snowbank, etc.… And I can hear the protesters at the gate, taunting me… “oh did you drop your phone, you piece of shit?” “You’re TERRIBLE!” “Fucking Nazi!” And I was just loving it, actually. But when I got closer and used my big voice “You assholes are barking up the wrong tree…. These MF’ers just released me!” The crowd went absolutely crazy.❞

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    • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

      From that observer who was taken yesterday, shared here with permission, because we could all use a good laugh. (Note: Whipple is the fed bldg that’s ICE’s MSP HQ)

      ❝So here’s my story about returning to the world…

      When they let you out of Whipple, they give you back your personal effects (minus your phone). And just send you out the front door with whatever you were wearing when you came in.

      So I’m walking out the front door of Whipple, probably looking like an ice agent coming off shift, and pulling all of my random shit out of my bag/dropping it in the snowbank, etc.… And I can hear the protesters at the gate, taunting me… “oh did you drop your phone, you piece of shit?” “You’re TERRIBLE!” “Fucking Nazi!” And I was just loving it, actually. But when I got closer and used my big voice “You assholes are barking up the wrong tree…. These MF’ers just released me!” The crowd went absolutely crazy.❞

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      @inthehands What is this “minus your phone” bullshit?

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      • Hoarse e-Books2 Hoarse e-Books

        @inthehands What is this “minus your phone” bullshit?

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        @20002ist
        We are all wondering this. What is this “[FILL IN ANY PART OF THIS]” bullshit honestly??

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        • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

          Unfortunately the relative quiet of the last few days is over. ICE is all over South Minneapolis this morning. They just smashed an observer’s car window and kidnapped them right outside my corner coffee shop.

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          @inthehands WHEN are people stopping the #AmericanGestaapo at gunpoint?

          • Serious question, or are people too cowardly to use their #2A?

          As long as #ICE are being allowed to #terrorize communities, they'll continue!

          #WeKeepUsSafe #USpol #FuckICE #ForcedDisappearances #ICE #Kidnapping #StateTerrorism #Trump #fascism #Amerikkka #sarcasm #commentary #SelfDefense #MutualDefense

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          • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

            @20002ist
            We are all wondering this. What is this “[FILL IN ANY PART OF THIS]” bullshit honestly??

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            @inthehands True. But if they’re at least willing to back down & release someone, what fucking basis is there for — let’s be honest — stealing their property?

            Not even gonna start on the gratuitous and illegal smashing of his car window….

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            • NormanDunbarN NormanDunbar

              @ferrix @inthehands Can you legally make a citizens' arrest in the US? We can in the UK.

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              @NormanDunbar @ferrix @inthehands You just can't get close to that wuss without a dozen anonymous rifle bros cracking your skull.

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              • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                @20002ist
                We are all wondering this. What is this “[FILL IN ANY PART OF THIS]” bullshit honestly??

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                @inthehands @20002ist about a week ago I read that a released person used FindMy to locate their phone and an ice goon had sold it for cash. Sort of makes sense if they are being told to destroy them and they are lawless, why not profit instead

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                  @raptor85 @MissConstrue @ApostateEnglishman @inthehands Please do this, folks!

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                  • spiegelmamaS spiegelmama

                    @NormanDunbar @ferrix @inthehands You just can't get close to that wuss without a dozen anonymous rifle bros cracking your skull.

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                    @spiegelmama @ferrix @inthehands Fair point. I forgot about that. Sorry.

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                    • Hoarse e-Books2 Hoarse e-Books

                      @inthehands True. But if they’re at least willing to back down & release someone, what fucking basis is there for — let’s be honest — stealing their property?

                      Not even gonna start on the gratuitous and illegal smashing of his car window….

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                      @20002ist @inthehands

                      It's important to understand that the property arbitrarily seized by police, "civil asset forfeiture" adds up to more theft than all burglaries combined. The only heist bigger is wage theft.

                      You don't have to be convicted or even charged with anything. They'll just take your shit. Like in SF when the non-corporate nightclubs were getting harassed by cops using 40s-era obscenity laws to go after the queer-themed nights. They'd just take the DJ's whole rig. For example. Same goes for the cash under your mattress, when they toss a house "for drugs".

                      They do it because they know we're not exactly rolling in money (else they'd be taking their orders from us) and it's hard for us to replace that shit. For them it's profitable harassment. Best job ever for greedy bullies who love to make people cry.

                      Phones have been reappearing after being resold. You know, like how they auction off the cars they seize. Whether it's a personal deal under the table or a whole official process, same evil crap.

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                      • NormanDunbarN NormanDunbar

                        @spiegelmama @ferrix @inthehands Fair point. I forgot about that. Sorry.

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                        @NormanDunbar @ferrix @inthehands No, no, no. All ideas are good ideas in the brainstorming process, and I shouldn't have shut you down. If I ever find myself in the vicinity of that man, I'll try your idea. I should carry around handcuffs and practice using them. I'm goth-ish, they work as an accessory... 🤔

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                        • spiegelmamaS spiegelmama

                          @NormanDunbar @ferrix @inthehands No, no, no. All ideas are good ideas in the brainstorming process, and I shouldn't have shut you down. If I ever find myself in the vicinity of that man, I'll try your idea. I should carry around handcuffs and practice using them. I'm goth-ish, they work as an accessory... 🤔

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                          @spiegelmama @ferrix @inthehands Hey, no problem, you didn't shut me down at all. You just clarified the situation for someone a long way from the situation. Thanks.

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