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DYK the speculum hasn’t changed since the 1800s?

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  • anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖A anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖

    DYK the speculum hasn’t changed since the 1800s? Now, women engineers built something softer, safer, smarter.

    Jo - pièce de résistanceJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Jo - pièce de résistanceJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Jo - pièce de résistance
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    #14

    @anna_lillith yay.
    Mammograms and Pap smears are just torture devices for women.

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    • ⊥ᵒᵚ Cᵸᵎᶺᵋᶫ∸ᵒᵘ ☑️F ⊥ᵒᵚ Cᵸᵎᶺᵋᶫ∸ᵒᵘ ☑️

      @JohnJBurnsIII @anna_lillith they could opem source the design and anyone could 3D print their own... Even single use would be huge.

      2xfoR This user is from outside of this forum
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      2xfo
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      @falken @JohnJBurnsIII @anna_lillith
      I would not put a design out and tell people to print it at home because that environment is probably not clinically sterile and the materials or equipment they choose could be contaminated with - or simply made from - things that are harmful to put inside the human body.

      For the same reason, you shouldn't drink from a printed cup

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      • 2xfoR 2xfo

        @falken @JohnJBurnsIII @anna_lillith
        I would not put a design out and tell people to print it at home because that environment is probably not clinically sterile and the materials or equipment they choose could be contaminated with - or simply made from - things that are harmful to put inside the human body.

        For the same reason, you shouldn't drink from a printed cup

        John BurnsJ This user is from outside of this forum
        John BurnsJ This user is from outside of this forum
        John Burns
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        #16

        Agreed:
        @RnDanger

        I've only seen others do 3-d printing. I have not done design for 3-d printing...

        But I know that I would be worried about the torque involved and how the plastic threads are melted and laid down - that I would be concerned with cracks/breakage while in operation and that leading to extremely painful lacerations.

        The tool needs to be solid and not fail during use.

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          @JohnJBurnsIII @anna_lillith they could opem source the design and anyone could 3D print their own... Even single use would be huge.

          ⊥ᵒᵚ Cᵸᵎᶺᵋᶫ∸ᵒᵘ ☑️F This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote on last edited by
          #17

          @JohnJBurnsIII @anna_lillith "they" people who know what they are doing.

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          • anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖A anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖

            DYK the speculum hasn’t changed since the 1800s? Now, women engineers built something softer, safer, smarter.

            Martina NeumayerM This user is from outside of this forum
            Martina NeumayerM This user is from outside of this forum
            Martina Neumayer
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            #18

            @anna_lillith Na endlich! 👍❤️

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            • anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖A anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖

              DYK the speculum hasn’t changed since the 1800s? Now, women engineers built something softer, safer, smarter.

              James BradburyJ This user is from outside of this forum
              James BradburyJ This user is from outside of this forum
              James Bradbury
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              #19

              @anna_lillith so necessity *is* the mother of invention.

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              • 2xfoR 2xfo

                @falken @JohnJBurnsIII @anna_lillith
                I would not put a design out and tell people to print it at home because that environment is probably not clinically sterile and the materials or equipment they choose could be contaminated with - or simply made from - things that are harmful to put inside the human body.

                For the same reason, you shouldn't drink from a printed cup

                Sarah WS This user is from outside of this forum
                Sarah WS This user is from outside of this forum
                Sarah W
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                @RnDanger @falken @JohnJBurnsIII @anna_lillith
                Many things that are put in women's bodies are not sterile. A penis, for example.

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                • anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖A anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖

                  DYK the speculum hasn’t changed since the 1800s? Now, women engineers built something softer, safer, smarter.

                  C This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Carl
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                  #21

                  @anna_lillith Oh, gut. Das ist ja auch für den Arsch.
                  SCNR

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                  • Jo - pièce de résistanceJ Jo - pièce de résistance

                    @anna_lillith yay.
                    Mammograms and Pap smears are just torture devices for women.

                    AnnieBuddyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    AnnieBuddy
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                    #22

                    @JoBlakely @anna_lillith

                    You cannot tell me they weren't designed for that.

                    Can you imagine a medical test that required men's balls to be squeezed in a vice?

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                    • anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖A anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖

                      DYK the speculum hasn’t changed since the 1800s? Now, women engineers built something softer, safer, smarter.

                      Mx VerdaM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Mx VerdaM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Mx Verda
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                      #23

                      @anna_lillith Also the Carevix! Like a suction cup instead of death pincers.
                      https://www.aghealth.co.uk/post/carevix-now-available-to-uk-clinics
                      https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT07290517

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                      • anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖A anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖

                        https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250714-researchers-redesign-vaginal-speculum-to-ease-fear-and-pain

                        🧵

                        Mx VerdaM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Mx Verda
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                        #24

                        @anna_lillith I like the idea, but I'd really like if they included advice to have the patient insert it themself.
                        They said "like a tampon", so include the option to direct the consultation.
                        Doc wants it wider? Let the patient squeeze the control thing. Doc wants to angle it? Ask if the patient can do it, or hold it steady.

                        Less "you are an unruly experiment" and more "ah yes, let's collaborate on this mutual project of my vaj health".

                        #GynOb #ObGyn

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                        • 2xfoR 2xfo

                          @falken @JohnJBurnsIII @anna_lillith
                          I would not put a design out and tell people to print it at home because that environment is probably not clinically sterile and the materials or equipment they choose could be contaminated with - or simply made from - things that are harmful to put inside the human body.

                          For the same reason, you shouldn't drink from a printed cup

                          Mx VerdaM This user is from outside of this forum
                          Mx VerdaM This user is from outside of this forum
                          Mx Verda
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                          @RnDanger
                          I getcha, but also:
                          What if ... inner lining to printed plastic cup? Like a 'female' / self-insert condom in shape.
                          @falken @JohnJBurnsIII @anna_lillith

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                          • Mx VerdaM Mx Verda

                            @RnDanger
                            I getcha, but also:
                            What if ... inner lining to printed plastic cup? Like a 'female' / self-insert condom in shape.
                            @falken @JohnJBurnsIII @anna_lillith

                            2xfoR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            2xfo
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                            #26

                            I'm going into a lot of theory but to be honest I'm not experienced with it at all.

                            If you want to know more i think an Invisalign tech might be a good person to start asking about 3D printing for biocompatibility and the requirements thereof

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                            • AnnieBuddyA AnnieBuddy

                              @JoBlakely @anna_lillith

                              You cannot tell me they weren't designed for that.

                              Can you imagine a medical test that required men's balls to be squeezed in a vice?

                              MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Marianne
                              wrote last edited by noodlemaz@mstdn.games
                              #27

                              @AnnieBuddy @JoBlakely @anna_lillith well, not just that. They also detect cancer and pre-cancer which is, yknow, deadly.
                              Yep, the instruments suck. And people are finally being given the funds to do the work needed to improve them.

                              But personally I'd rather have the occasional unpleasant appointment than cancer treatment that might not work because I wasn't diagnosed early enough.

                              Sadly boobs and cervices don't dangle conveniently like testicles..!

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                              • Mx VerdaM Mx Verda

                                @anna_lillith I like the idea, but I'd really like if they included advice to have the patient insert it themself.
                                They said "like a tampon", so include the option to direct the consultation.
                                Doc wants it wider? Let the patient squeeze the control thing. Doc wants to angle it? Ask if the patient can do it, or hold it steady.

                                Less "you are an unruly experiment" and more "ah yes, let's collaborate on this mutual project of my vaj health".

                                #GynOb #ObGyn

                                MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Marianne
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                                @MxVerda @anna_lillith there are research projects ongoing to help get self/home-sampling rolled out in the UK as well, especially to communities where attending smears is less of an option.
                                If these work, they would also be extremely useful elsewhere of course. So fingers crossed the results come through!

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                                • MarianneN Marianne

                                  @AnnieBuddy @JoBlakely @anna_lillith well, not just that. They also detect cancer and pre-cancer which is, yknow, deadly.
                                  Yep, the instruments suck. And people are finally being given the funds to do the work needed to improve them.

                                  But personally I'd rather have the occasional unpleasant appointment than cancer treatment that might not work because I wasn't diagnosed early enough.

                                  Sadly boobs and cervices don't dangle conveniently like testicles..!

                                  Jo - pièce de résistanceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Jo - pièce de résistance
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                                  @noodlemaz @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith

                                  Dogs could be trained to detect by smell. They are always sticking their noses there. It’d be way nicer if you went to the dogtor. Less invasive and not painful. Plus cuteness. Pay in dog treats. lol. I’ve heard they can detect with more accuracy even by breath.
                                  Why not train more dognostics.
                                  You can get a second opinion with another dog and then choose a more invasive course of action after.
                                  I am serious about this.

                                  #dogs #scentDogs #doctors #

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                                  • MarianneN Marianne

                                    @AnnieBuddy @JoBlakely @anna_lillith well, not just that. They also detect cancer and pre-cancer which is, yknow, deadly.
                                    Yep, the instruments suck. And people are finally being given the funds to do the work needed to improve them.

                                    But personally I'd rather have the occasional unpleasant appointment than cancer treatment that might not work because I wasn't diagnosed early enough.

                                    Sadly boobs and cervices don't dangle conveniently like testicles..!

                                    Jo - pièce de résistanceJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Jo - pièce de résistanceJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Jo - pièce de résistance
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                                    @noodlemaz @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith

                                    Boobs dangle enough to smash them between plates.

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                                    • Jo - pièce de résistanceJ Jo - pièce de résistance

                                      @noodlemaz @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith

                                      Dogs could be trained to detect by smell. They are always sticking their noses there. It’d be way nicer if you went to the dogtor. Less invasive and not painful. Plus cuteness. Pay in dog treats. lol. I’ve heard they can detect with more accuracy even by breath.
                                      Why not train more dognostics.
                                      You can get a second opinion with another dog and then choose a more invasive course of action after.
                                      I am serious about this.

                                      #dogs #scentDogs #doctors #

                                      MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Marianne
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                                      @JoBlakely @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith mmnope, sadly, dogs would not be a reliable way to detect breast cancer early. Though you're right it would be more fun (for everyone who isn't allergic/phobic anyway)
                                      https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2009/02/03/can-dogs-detect-the-smell-of-cancer/

                                      Screening needs to have a low false negative (tells you no cancer when you have it) and false positive (tells you you have cancer when you don't) rate and need to be accurate. Research is happening to see what dogs can do (which is very cool), but it's not a practical or feasible population screening method at all.

                                      Lots of work happening to make screening tests like smears and mammograms better though!

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                                        @noodlemaz @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith

                                        Dogs could be trained to detect by smell. They are always sticking their noses there. It’d be way nicer if you went to the dogtor. Less invasive and not painful. Plus cuteness. Pay in dog treats. lol. I’ve heard they can detect with more accuracy even by breath.
                                        Why not train more dognostics.
                                        You can get a second opinion with another dog and then choose a more invasive course of action after.
                                        I am serious about this.

                                        #dogs #scentDogs #doctors #

                                        AnnieBuddyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        AnnieBuddy
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                                        @JoBlakely @noodlemaz @anna_lillith

                                        And there you have it! The dogter. I love it!

                                        😂

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                                        • MarianneN Marianne

                                          @JoBlakely @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith mmnope, sadly, dogs would not be a reliable way to detect breast cancer early. Though you're right it would be more fun (for everyone who isn't allergic/phobic anyway)
                                          https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2009/02/03/can-dogs-detect-the-smell-of-cancer/

                                          Screening needs to have a low false negative (tells you no cancer when you have it) and false positive (tells you you have cancer when you don't) rate and need to be accurate. Research is happening to see what dogs can do (which is very cool), but it's not a practical or feasible population screening method at all.

                                          Lots of work happening to make screening tests like smears and mammograms better though!

                                          Jo - pièce de résistanceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Jo - pièce de résistance
                                          wrote last edited by
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                                          @noodlemaz @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith
                                          I think if they can identify the specific scent for the robot nose, then they can identify the specific smell for the dog to improve accuracy. I think it is still possible to improve the accuracy.
                                          You could send your samples to a Lab lab! lol.

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