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@rayckeith I had very similar experiences with a US company. Threats to be 'let go' if I didn't do a whole list of things every week, which would take me way beyond 40 hours. A letter from my lawyer changed their minds, offering instead a generous payment if I resigned voluntarily.
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It is the same in Germany. The last, and possibly only, time a US Supermarket tried to open chains here they simply couldn't cope with the fact that employees have protections in law!
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@rayckeith I had the similar problem more than 30 years ago. I told the manager that I work for a living and that the earnings must be good for my wife, my kids and myself. If he himself doesn't value his family life, he wouldn't value being together with co-workers either.
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@rayckeith
Story from 16 years ago Canada.
Working at a small software company (less than 10 people) They hired a new manager: An American of Indian origin who's leadership experience was in the US Military.
He tried to manage by vocal volume and intimidation. Caused some of the staff to breakdown, the rest had none of his BS and just ignored him.
It was a toxic environment before this fellow showed up, made worse by his presence, and couldn't recover.
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@rayckeith I had very similar experiences with a US company. Threats to be 'let go' if I didn't do a whole list of things every week, which would take me way beyond 40 hours. A letter from my lawyer changed their minds, offering instead a generous payment if I resigned voluntarily.
@RonInDortmund @rayckeith Remember they won’t offer more or even anywhere close to what they think being sued will cost them
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@rayckeith It varies by company, but I once worked for a non-tech company (acquired long ago, barely recognizable now) that expected people to work ~115% time. One of the largest departments once averaged about 150%! That was everyone in the department, admin staff to execs.
There were a few employees that refused to put in those long hours and it was reflected in receiving the lowest salary increases or bonuses. However, one "hard working", young salaried employee once worked out that he was actually making less than minimum wage.
A former colleague who refused to go along with with all this frequently used two old quips: 1) you can't make up in time what you lack in brains, and 2) nine women can't make a baby in a month.
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@rayckeith It varies by company, but I once worked for a non-tech company (acquired long ago, barely recognizable now) that expected people to work ~115% time. One of the largest departments once averaged about 150%! That was everyone in the department, admin staff to execs.
There were a few employees that refused to put in those long hours and it was reflected in receiving the lowest salary increases or bonuses. However, one "hard working", young salaried employee once worked out that he was actually making less than minimum wage.
A former colleague who refused to go along with with all this frequently used two old quips: 1) you can't make up in time what you lack in brains, and 2) nine women can't make a baby in a month.
@jtk a mythical (hopefully) manager once bragged that by having twins, his (probably soon-to-be ex-) wife doubled her productivity!
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