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  3. It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

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  • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

    It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

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    @AlSweigart Wait, you mean Wikipedia is not firing 1/3 of its staff and replacing them with AI bots designed to praise billionaires and the President?

    How are you supposed to trust Wikipedia ever again!!

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    • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

      It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

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      @AlSweigart For all it's flaws, Wiki still is and always has been the best source of information. No textbook ever written has footnotes that update in real time where a statement can be challenged, or a source or other evidence be demanded. That alone is priceless. The real value is at the bottom of the page-all the references that DO back up everything in the article.

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      • jmjmJ jmjm

        @AlSweigart PR forms routinely whitewash their clients' articles. But still, pretty good for articles about poor or dead people.

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        @jmjm @AlSweigart hi

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        • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

          It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

          Doug Baker - Elbows Up!S This user is from outside of this forum
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          @AlSweigart Jimmy Wales is an interesting guy- lives a very ordinary, humble, even, life. Somewhere in the UK, I think.

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          • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

            It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

            James 🦉 #FBPE 🇪🇺F This user is from outside of this forum
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            @AlSweigart And "You can't trust Wikipedia but we have to steal it in its entirety for our slop machines."

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            • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

              It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

              Rachel ParkerH This user is from outside of this forum
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              @AlSweigart Fair, but if you still can't use a Wikipedia citation as a valid source as a freelancer. At least, no respectable freelancer would do it, least of all me.

              It still exists as a fascinating open-source experiment, even if it's not exactly what anyone would describe as 100% reliable.

              Turns out newspapers having a monopoly on classified ads was actually a very, very good thing for society.

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              • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

                It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

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                @AlSweigart i will never trust wikipedia with anything related to social issues given how bigoted it is but things measurements are fine.

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                • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

                  It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

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                  @AlSweigart

                  Also my response to that in school when we were told not to use it for research was just to click through to the references and cite them directly making it a fantastic index and summary

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                  • Rachel ParkerH Rachel Parker

                    @AlSweigart Fair, but if you still can't use a Wikipedia citation as a valid source as a freelancer. At least, no respectable freelancer would do it, least of all me.

                    It still exists as a fascinating open-source experiment, even if it's not exactly what anyone would describe as 100% reliable.

                    Turns out newspapers having a monopoly on classified ads was actually a very, very good thing for society.

                    Harlequin BastardH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @haunted_refrigerator @AlSweigart professors in college back in the day would rule out wikipedia for citation. This was hilarious to me as an IT professional.

                    What is at the bottom of every wikipedia page?

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                    • George BG George B

                      @AlSweigart

                      Also my response to that in school when we were told not to use it for research was just to click through to the references and cite them directly making it a fantastic index and summary

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                      @AlSweigart @gbargoud That's what I do. It's also good for finding links to papers nobody seems to have handy.

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                      • Rachel ParkerH Rachel Parker

                        @AlSweigart Fair, but if you still can't use a Wikipedia citation as a valid source as a freelancer. At least, no respectable freelancer would do it, least of all me.

                        It still exists as a fascinating open-source experiment, even if it's not exactly what anyone would describe as 100% reliable.

                        Turns out newspapers having a monopoly on classified ads was actually a very, very good thing for society.

                        Magnus AhltorpA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @haunted_refrigerator @AlSweigart The reason Wikipedia should not be cited is because it’s an encyclopedia, not because it’s not accurate.

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                        • Alban OsmaniA Alban Osmani

                          @jmjm @AlSweigart hi

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                          @AlbanOsmani@mastodon.social

                          bye

                          @AlSweigart
                          @jmjm

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                          • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

                            It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

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                            @AlSweigart I remember researching John Wesley and the wikipedia page started out "For a good time call ###-####, also John Wesley (/ˈwɛsli/ WESS-lee;[1] 28 June [O.S. 17 June] 1703 – 2 March 1791) was an Engl..." Still more useful than AI slop.

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                            • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

                              It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

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                              @AlSweigart

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                              • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

                                It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

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                                @AlSweigart

                                I was once mocked by my cousin and his redneck friends for using Wikipedia to get... a list of US Presidents.

                                I didn't know how to respond to that so I just kept quiet and removed myself from the thread. I *still* don't know how I should have responded to it.

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                                • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

                                  It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

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                                  @AlSweigart
                                  Wikipedia didn't change, the world around it did. Just because everything around it got worse doesn't mean that it got better even if it's now one of the more reliable sources. Checking references on Wikipedia is still an important thing.

                                  To be clear, I'm not saying Wikipedia is bad and I agree capitalism is the problem but "trust, but verify" is important to follow.

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