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  3. All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

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  • Emily Vale, GendermancerS Emily Vale, Gendermancer

    @akareilly the billionaire rapists that run everything hate us. Or maybe they don't. Maybe they just don't see us as people, but rather as resources to exploit for money and gratification.

    We're not going to get any of that or anything else that we all deserve while we're governed by people that want to extract misery from us for their own benefit. Not without uniting and fighting for it, talking what is due it for all of us.

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    @akareilly the most they've ever willingly parted with was enough to keep us from removing them from power while they decide how to deal with us for effectively.

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    • NetravenN Netraven

      @akareilly As someone who has spent a lifetime working inside the system, genuinely trying to do good, and being consistently punished for it, I can tell you this: if it weren’t AI, it would be something else. The problem isn’t the technology. It’s that there is never real investment in what’s actually needed. Even when requirements are written into law, or when problems are merely complex rather than impossible, the system learns how to route around them. Compliance becomes performative. Safety becomes fictional.

      Industry, capitalism, and the people who steer them are optimizing very effectively, but in the wrong regime. A system oriented toward sustainability and durability would prioritize clean air in schools, hospitals, and public transit; renewable energy; and supply chains built on fair wages and genuinely safe working conditions. The fact that we don’t see this isn’t an accident or a failure of execution. It’s evidence of what the system is truly optimizing for: end-of-horizon exit optionality, not long-term human well-being.

      K-ZO da SnowmanK This user is from outside of this forum
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      #19

      @Netraven @akareilly to support this point; Biden and congress sent money to cops, money meant to upgrade schools' ventilation and filtration. Cities happily received that money. It always comes down to culture and power.

      And I do believe we can change the culture and take the power.

      (Edited to change my mis-remembering of the fund distribution)

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      • K-ZO da SnowmanK K-ZO da Snowman

        @Netraven @akareilly to support this point; Biden and congress sent money to cops, money meant to upgrade schools' ventilation and filtration. Cities happily received that money. It always comes down to culture and power.

        And I do believe we can change the culture and take the power.

        (Edited to change my mis-remembering of the fund distribution)

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        @kzodasnowman @Netraven @akareilly

        $350B that was actually earmarked for COVID and pandemic relief/infrastructure, and Biden *specifically* told cities to use it to hire, train, and arm police with anti-riot gear.

        Ugh, every time I think about it

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        • K-ZO da SnowmanK K-ZO da Snowman

          @Netraven @akareilly to support this point; Biden and congress sent money to cops, money meant to upgrade schools' ventilation and filtration. Cities happily received that money. It always comes down to culture and power.

          And I do believe we can change the culture and take the power.

          (Edited to change my mis-remembering of the fund distribution)

          NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
          NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #21

          @kzodasnowman @akareilly

          Without getting into specifics, I’m responsible for ensuring life-safety compliance in one narrow area of school operations. Last year in California, Governor Newsom approved a $13 billion bond for school upgrades. I can tell you this much: I’ve been to nearly every school from Los Angeles to the Mexican border, and they desperately need the funding.

          So did that money actually reach schools? And how would anyone really know?

          Schools don’t plan for maintenance. There is effectively no maintenance budget. When money does get spent, it’s usually on major capital upgrades that have been in motion for years. Those projects are designed with the assumption that bond funding will be available, because that’s how the system has always worked. Voters assume their money is going somewhere, or they may not realize that a school bond is really a 30-year property tax levy. It’s not “government funding.” It’s the public paying directly.

          By the time projects go out to bid, a bond holder ultimately decides whether major upgrades happen at all. Since it’s cheaper to omit proper life-safety systems, those elements are often quietly removed at the last minute. Responsibility is pushed downhill until it lands with a subcontractor, who is expected to do the work without objection... or not get paid. Even the state DSA is either complicit or completely disconnected from reality. Either way, they’re ineffective.

          In the end, there are no real checks or balances. No one is truly watching. This is why it keeps happening. Schools have effectively become glorified real-estate managers who also happen to oversee children.

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          • NetravenN Netraven

            @akareilly As someone who has spent a lifetime working inside the system, genuinely trying to do good, and being consistently punished for it, I can tell you this: if it weren’t AI, it would be something else. The problem isn’t the technology. It’s that there is never real investment in what’s actually needed. Even when requirements are written into law, or when problems are merely complex rather than impossible, the system learns how to route around them. Compliance becomes performative. Safety becomes fictional.

            Industry, capitalism, and the people who steer them are optimizing very effectively, but in the wrong regime. A system oriented toward sustainability and durability would prioritize clean air in schools, hospitals, and public transit; renewable energy; and supply chains built on fair wages and genuinely safe working conditions. The fact that we don’t see this isn’t an accident or a failure of execution. It’s evidence of what the system is truly optimizing for: end-of-horizon exit optionality, not long-term human well-being.

            JohnJ This user is from outside of this forum
            JohnJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Netraven @akareilly

            The joke's on them, though: there *is* no end-of-horizon exit optionality in global ecological collapses, and 2 sq mile bunkers don't work if nobody will work for you.

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            • JohnJ John

              @Netraven @akareilly

              The joke's on them, though: there *is* no end-of-horizon exit optionality in global ecological collapses, and 2 sq mile bunkers don't work if nobody will work for you.

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              @johnzajac @akareilly

              well yes, of course. We know this because we're still in contact with reality. The people we're talking about have replaced contact with reality with symbols that become load-bearing instead. If you want to test which symbols are load bearing, just test which one shuts down conversation when mentioned.

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              • NetravenN Netraven

                @johnzajac @akareilly

                well yes, of course. We know this because we're still in contact with reality. The people we're talking about have replaced contact with reality with symbols that become load-bearing instead. If you want to test which symbols are load bearing, just test which one shuts down conversation when mentioned.

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                JohnJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Netraven @akareilly

                Fascism is all about symbols and aesthetics replacing substance, and the real trick is realizing we've been living under fascism and borrowing from previous eras of substance for most of the last 50 years.

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                • JohnJ John

                  @Netraven @akareilly

                  Fascism is all about symbols and aesthetics replacing substance, and the real trick is realizing we've been living under fascism and borrowing from previous eras of substance for most of the last 50 years.

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                  RE: https://hear-me.social/@Netraven/116010753140279169

                  @johnzajac @akareilly

                  I wrote about this recently but my brain is too tired to summarize.

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                  • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                    All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                    We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                    Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

                    Quincy ⁂Q This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @akareilly

                    The slop industry is pure evil.

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                    • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                      All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                      We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                      Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

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                      @akareilly We are not allowed to have anything nice.

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                      • NetravenN Netraven

                        @kzodasnowman @akareilly

                        Without getting into specifics, I’m responsible for ensuring life-safety compliance in one narrow area of school operations. Last year in California, Governor Newsom approved a $13 billion bond for school upgrades. I can tell you this much: I’ve been to nearly every school from Los Angeles to the Mexican border, and they desperately need the funding.

                        So did that money actually reach schools? And how would anyone really know?

                        Schools don’t plan for maintenance. There is effectively no maintenance budget. When money does get spent, it’s usually on major capital upgrades that have been in motion for years. Those projects are designed with the assumption that bond funding will be available, because that’s how the system has always worked. Voters assume their money is going somewhere, or they may not realize that a school bond is really a 30-year property tax levy. It’s not “government funding.” It’s the public paying directly.

                        By the time projects go out to bid, a bond holder ultimately decides whether major upgrades happen at all. Since it’s cheaper to omit proper life-safety systems, those elements are often quietly removed at the last minute. Responsibility is pushed downhill until it lands with a subcontractor, who is expected to do the work without objection... or not get paid. Even the state DSA is either complicit or completely disconnected from reality. Either way, they’re ineffective.

                        In the end, there are no real checks or balances. No one is truly watching. This is why it keeps happening. Schools have effectively become glorified real-estate managers who also happen to oversee children.

                        K-ZO da SnowmanK This user is from outside of this forum
                        K-ZO da SnowmanK This user is from outside of this forum
                        K-ZO da Snowman
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                        @Netraven @akareilly I believe you 100%. Oakland Unified School District was lead poisoning children! The article maps the lead crisis perfectly onto your structure. It reminds me of the phrase "maintenance is civilization" https://oaklandside.org/2025/08/01/oakland-unified-schools-haphazard-response-lead-water-crisis/

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                        • K-ZO da SnowmanK K-ZO da Snowman

                          @Netraven @akareilly I believe you 100%. Oakland Unified School District was lead poisoning children! The article maps the lead crisis perfectly onto your structure. It reminds me of the phrase "maintenance is civilization" https://oaklandside.org/2025/08/01/oakland-unified-schools-haphazard-response-lead-water-crisis/

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                          @kzodasnowman @akareilly and jesus fucking christ... the Association of California School Administrators have a name for what happens to kids in their school system. "The School-to-Prison Pipeline" They use it openly at their $1000 a plate fundraisers (so they can pay big time speakers to come and say nice leadership words to them and pat them on the back).

                          Meanwhile Compton School District has a private army of "School Security" which are each as heavily armed as any ICE agent if not more so. M14's don't fucking belong in schools, and if someone thinks they do, more security isn't the solution.

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                          • Jérémy PagèsJ Jérémy Pagès

                            @akareilly Median age for covid deaths is over 80 years old, so there is not much to be done here.

                            What could have been avoided are the dire economical and social consequences of covid craziness.

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                            @jpages @akareilly What craziness? Be specific.

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                            • JohnJ John

                              @Netraven @akareilly

                              The joke's on them, though: there *is* no end-of-horizon exit optionality in global ecological collapses, and 2 sq mile bunkers don't work if nobody will work for you.

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                              @Netraven @akareilly @johnzajac haha, joke's on you! They don't mean real end-of-horizon, they just mean their own exit horizon. They plan to sell before it all hits the fan!

                              Then somehow all that currency will protect them when the climate collapses. Maybe they will eat it, I don't know.

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                              • dingodogD dingodog

                                @Netraven @akareilly @johnzajac haha, joke's on you! They don't mean real end-of-horizon, they just mean their own exit horizon. They plan to sell before it all hits the fan!

                                Then somehow all that currency will protect them when the climate collapses. Maybe they will eat it, I don't know.

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                                @dingodog19 @Netraven @akareilly

                                I'm sure they'll buy all their food with their crypto wallets when climate disasters destroy society

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                                • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                                  All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                                  We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                                  Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

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                                  @akareilly We could have made things so much better. We could have better accessibility. We could have better infection awareness. Instead some criminal is making a buck. This was a choice made by the elite. They chose to allow millions to die to fuel their technofeudalist empire. The suffering is the point. People like bezos and musk and zuckerberg and altman are complicit in this disaster. They are criminals and murderers

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