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  • eLearningTechieE eLearningTechie

    @simon_brooke oh nice!

    Simon BrookeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by
    #55

    @eLearningTechie The thing about Open Source software is that if it doesn't do what you want, you can extend it to do what you want -- but you may need to learn a lot more about it than you really wanted to!

    Still, it was a hugely fun project, and a really useful tool.

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    • Simon BrookeS Simon Brooke

      @eLearningTechie The thing about Open Source software is that if it doesn't do what you want, you can extend it to do what you want -- but you may need to learn a lot more about it than you really wanted to!

      Still, it was a hugely fun project, and a really useful tool.

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      eLearningTechie
      wrote last edited by
      #56

      @simon_brooke Absolutely, but not everyone has the skills or time (and motivation) to learn those skills. It's a pity but a fact of life. Like I said earlier on this topic, there are lots of apps out there, it's just a question of finding the one that works for your individual needs. I'm happy to invest some effort, but not everyone is.

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      • eclectechE eclectech

        @howtophil Oooh, the screenshots on the webpage certainly make it look worth checking out - and it mentions vector animation too. Thanks!

        HowToPhilH This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #57

        @eclectech No Problem ๐Ÿ™‚ I've used it for this and that, but I'm not an animator, so... ymmv

        It always seemed pretty slick to me, even early-ish versions

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        • David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)D David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)

          @eLearningTechie The best I can say about Inkscape is that it works, but the UI is incredibly clunky and I spend so much time fighting it that I can't focus on what I'm trying to draw.

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          wrote last edited by
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          @david_chisnall @eLearningTechie
          For straightforward diagrams I use Libre Office draw.

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          • Mark BurtonM Mark Burton

            @david_chisnall @eLearningTechie
            For straightforward diagrams I use Libre Office draw.

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            eLearningTechie
            wrote last edited by
            #59

            @markhburton that makes sense

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            • Marta ๐ŸŒฟ๐ŸƒT Marta ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿƒ

              @eclectech Again haven't tried Illustrator, but people say that Affinity Designer feels much more like Illustrator than Inkscape does.
              For mostly vector graphics there is also Graphite, it's mostly web only now but they've just released the first version of desktop app too, and promise add more animation nodes. It's node-based for all the procedural stuff, but you can also just draw stuff in it without looking at node graph.
              I'm learning it in hopes that I like its animation stuff when it comes ๐Ÿ˜‰ As I'm more limited in options being on Linux.
              My list is Manim that I write for in Python, and Friction2d for manual stuff. But it doesn't tween or deform raster past scaling and shearing, so morphing this raster image was quite a struggle.

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              wrote last edited by
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              @triffen
              Graphite is a very interesting concept. I've played with it a bit. I think it could be very cool for procedural 2D motion graphics.

              But while I think it's worth trying out, it's a very different way of looking at things. So if the goal is Flash but not Adobe, I suspect it doesn't fit the bill.

              I only rarely do anything with 2D animation myself, so I don't have food suggestions, but I'm very curious to hear the result of exploring the options people have been sharing.

              @eclectech

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              • TedT Ted

                @triffen
                Graphite is a very interesting concept. I've played with it a bit. I think it could be very cool for procedural 2D motion graphics.

                But while I think it's worth trying out, it's a very different way of looking at things. So if the goal is Flash but not Adobe, I suspect it doesn't fit the bill.

                I only rarely do anything with 2D animation myself, so I don't have food suggestions, but I'm very curious to hear the result of exploring the options people have been sharing.

                @eclectech

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                @tschundler Yeah, I suggested it as an alternative to Inkscape, not for motion graphics (yet).

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                • eclectechE eclectech

                  I have a question for a niche group of people.

                  The question is for people who have used Flash or Animate to make 2D animations.

                  Have you found alternative software that has the same overall user experience as old school Flash?

                  If yes, what is it?

                  Please note I am aware of a lot of animation packages out there & I know a lot of them are great, but I have a LOT of experience in Flash & if I can ditch Animate but keep the overall experience that would be perfect.

                  Thanks.

                  #animation

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                  Jon Haile
                  wrote last edited by
                  #62

                  @eclectech looks like they were already suggested, but Iโ€™ll add to mentions of Rive and Calvary as the ones Iโ€™ve heard most commonly as Flash replacements

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                  • eclectechE eclectech

                    Quick thanks to everyone boosting and making suggestions here. I am making a list!

                    Might take me a while to go through but I will feedback (with particular reference to whether it's an easy transition from Animate) when I can.

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                    @eclectech
                    I havenโ€™t used it as my art (such as it is) pretends to be fine art done digitally with Procreate, but Procreateโ€™s โ€œDreamsโ€ app has become pretty popular.

                    https://procreate.com/dreams

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                    • eclectechE eclectech

                      I have a question for a niche group of people.

                      The question is for people who have used Flash or Animate to make 2D animations.

                      Have you found alternative software that has the same overall user experience as old school Flash?

                      If yes, what is it?

                      Please note I am aware of a lot of animation packages out there & I know a lot of them are great, but I have a LOT of experience in Flash & if I can ditch Animate but keep the overall experience that would be perfect.

                      Thanks.

                      #animation

                      Raisca GamorR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #64

                      @eclectech I've been asking the same for quite some time. Still haven't found it. But I'm also not looking that hard, truth be told.

                      I've been wanting to do an "old school" kind of website with little animations here and there, but it seems like an herculean task for someone who only used Flash years and years ago and now would have to learn a whole new thing again. I'd have to look into not just the animation part but the website part too. Ugh. It's too much.

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                      • Raisca GamorR Raisca Gamor

                        @eclectech I've been asking the same for quite some time. Still haven't found it. But I'm also not looking that hard, truth be told.

                        I've been wanting to do an "old school" kind of website with little animations here and there, but it seems like an herculean task for someone who only used Flash years and years ago and now would have to learn a whole new thing again. I'd have to look into not just the animation part but the website part too. Ugh. It's too much.

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                        #65

                        @eclectech erhm... I just came here to complain, instead of helping you with what your looking for. Sorry about that๐Ÿ˜… (It was a "I feel your pain" kind of complaint, but still...)

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                        • eclectechE eclectech

                          I have a question for a niche group of people.

                          The question is for people who have used Flash or Animate to make 2D animations.

                          Have you found alternative software that has the same overall user experience as old school Flash?

                          If yes, what is it?

                          Please note I am aware of a lot of animation packages out there & I know a lot of them are great, but I have a LOT of experience in Flash & if I can ditch Animate but keep the overall experience that would be perfect.

                          Thanks.

                          #animation

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                          Claudius
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                          @eclectech lottie (https://lottiefiles.com/ ) has taken over a tiny part of what Flash did, I think. HTML5+JS has taken over another part of what Flash did. Unity3d has taken over a bit of what Flash did.

                          But there's still, in my humble opinion, a sizeable hole that never got filled.

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                          • eclectechE eclectech

                            I have a question for a niche group of people.

                            The question is for people who have used Flash or Animate to make 2D animations.

                            Have you found alternative software that has the same overall user experience as old school Flash?

                            If yes, what is it?

                            Please note I am aware of a lot of animation packages out there & I know a lot of them are great, but I have a LOT of experience in Flash & if I can ditch Animate but keep the overall experience that would be perfect.

                            Thanks.

                            #animation

                            ClaudiusC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Claudius
                            wrote last edited by
                            #67

                            @eclectech also for animations, I think friction is slowly but steadily shaping up: https://friction.graphics/ here's a tutorial series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0ZBRmGxWXQ

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                            • ClaudiusC Claudius

                              @eclectech lottie (https://lottiefiles.com/ ) has taken over a tiny part of what Flash did, I think. HTML5+JS has taken over another part of what Flash did. Unity3d has taken over a bit of what Flash did.

                              But there's still, in my humble opinion, a sizeable hole that never got filled.

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                              eclectech
                              wrote last edited by
                              #68

                              @claudius Yeah, it seems such a shame that dislike of the default output format seems to have cast the entire setup as a Bad Thing.

                              I suppose arguably Animate is still there, but that's not cost effective for most people wanting to make stuff for fun.

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                              • eclectechE eclectech

                                Quick thanks to everyone boosting and making suggestions here. I am making a list!

                                Might take me a while to go through but I will feedback (with particular reference to whether it's an easy transition from Animate) when I can.

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                                eclectech
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                                FFS. Four days after asking for suggestions to replace Animate and Adobe announce they're discontinuing the product on 1 March.

                                So that's put the pressure on finding an alternative.

                                Also *I* was going to flounce off from you Adobe, not the other way around.

                                (to be fair, I will still flounce off, but it won't be *quite* as satisfying)

                                https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/02/adobe-animate-is-shutting-down-as-company-focuses-on-ai/

                                #animation #Flash

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                                • eclectechE eclectech

                                  FFS. Four days after asking for suggestions to replace Animate and Adobe announce they're discontinuing the product on 1 March.

                                  So that's put the pressure on finding an alternative.

                                  Also *I* was going to flounce off from you Adobe, not the other way around.

                                  (to be fair, I will still flounce off, but it won't be *quite* as satisfying)

                                  https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/02/adobe-animate-is-shutting-down-as-company-focuses-on-ai/

                                  #animation #Flash

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                                  @eclectech Another reason to hate their subscription model. ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                                    Play Ball and Fight Fascists
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                                    @eclectech

                                    It is VERY annoying and you are well within your right to be ticked off about it.

                                    Shutting something like this down on a month's notice is garbage.

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                                    • Matt RoundM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @eclectech Ouch, that's the thing, you never know what you might want to go back to

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                                      • eclectechE eclectech

                                        FFS. Four days after asking for suggestions to replace Animate and Adobe announce they're discontinuing the product on 1 March.

                                        So that's put the pressure on finding an alternative.

                                        Also *I* was going to flounce off from you Adobe, not the other way around.

                                        (to be fair, I will still flounce off, but it won't be *quite* as satisfying)

                                        https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/02/adobe-animate-is-shutting-down-as-company-focuses-on-ai/

                                        #animation #Flash

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                                        @eclectech Ugh ๐Ÿ˜•

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                                          @eclectech

                                          I think it's a fairly big thing!

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