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The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it.

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  • Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)G This user is from outside of this forum
    Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)G This user is from outside of this forum
    Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)
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    The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.

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    • Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)G Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)

      The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.

      MaiaM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @grumpygamer yes, but all my friends are pretty set on finding an alternative for discord now, after yesterday. i don’t think they’re the only ones

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      • Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)G Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)

        The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.

        CatTriggerC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @grumpygamer That's been the truth of a lot of this for me as well.

        Self hosted solutions require a lot of explanation to people.

        Trying to explain Matrix to a layman is like me being inside a cockpit with a phone telling me how to land the damn plane.

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        • Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)G Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)

          The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.

          AxaloteA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @grumpygamer

          Yeah, that sucks. I got away from most big tech stuff and other services/apps i consider immoral and/or unethical, but i can't leave, for example, WhatsApp, since doing that would cut me off from communicating with most of my country.

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          • Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)G Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)

            The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.

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            @grumpygamer I've had luck getting people to collaborate via shared links over cryptpad.fr, but somehow I can't get them to make accounts there…

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            • Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)G Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)

              The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.

              JPJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @grumpygamer "network effects" are a killer! kinda means an alternative needs to be overwhelmingly better all at once to make a dent, which rarely happens.

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              • Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)G Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)

                The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.

                Ian Douglas ScottI This user is from outside of this forum
                Ian Douglas ScottI This user is from outside of this forum
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                @grumpygamer I've been thinking for a while that I should host a Jabber server as soon as I can find anyone who wants to chat on Jabber.

                (It hasn't come up so far. Shockingly.)

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                  @grumpygamer "network effects" are a killer! kinda means an alternative needs to be overwhelmingly better all at once to make a dent, which rarely happens.

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                  @grumpygamer @jplebreton well the unsurmountable inevitability of network effects is the lie big social companies are telling you today.

                  In reality all that's keeping them from beeing disrupted is a big moat full of aggressive IP laws/lawyers around their business model (e.g. controlling access to "their" users)

                  https://pluralistic.net/2026/01/30/zucksauce/#gandersauce

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                  • Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)G Ron Gilbert (100% AI free)

                    The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.

                    Ian MalcolmI This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @grumpygamer

                    Going to have to start working on my roleplaying group to ditch Discord as our online meetup venue...

                    And I'm dreading it cos it took me way too long to get them to stop using FB Messenger for arrangements and between-sessions discussions. 😬

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