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The real MLK was a radical.

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  • ? Guest

    The real MLK was a radical. Take a moment today to learn something new about him. You will be glad you did.

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    @amerpie https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mlk-capitalism-flow/

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    • ? Guest

      The real MLK was a radical. Take a moment today to learn something new about him. You will be glad you did.

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      @amerpie Wait, what is so radical about it? Sounds to me like pure common-sense.

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      • ? Guest

        The real MLK was a radical. Take a moment today to learn something new about him. You will be glad you did.

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        @amerpie Can someone recommend a good biography of Dr. King that provides info like this? Something that goes beyond the useless, superficial education I got about him in grade school? ๐Ÿ™

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        • Ultra Verified ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆU Ultra Verified ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

          @violetmadder @amerpie

          Just being a decent human being is why they murdered Renee Good.

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          @Ultraverified @violetmadder @amerpie being, and staying, kind as well as loving in a society built on aggression is, by its very definition, a radical act in and of itself.

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          • SquirrelS Squirrel

            @amerpie I don't think was as controversial back when it was said.

            I don't think there is anything making you inherently evil if you criticize capitalism, so even today, you might come across as naive, but you're not really Stalin, though.

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            @squirrel @amerpie naive is assuming the problems with the current system can be solved any other way

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            • ? Guest

              The real MLK was a radical. Take a moment today to learn something new about him. You will be glad you did.

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              @amerpie Last year a local church had a whole seminar about the radical king (election year, people came).
              This year our locl community radio weft.org is doin' a thing top of next hour 4:00 CST for several hours of the stuff that doesn't get out there enough.
              Now, aren't there also copyright issues w/ much of what was said and written?

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              • ? Guest

                The real MLK was a radical. Take a moment today to learn something new about him. You will be glad you did.

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                @amerpie itโ€™s not wrong.

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                • DennyC Denny

                  @amerpie he wasn't wrong about capitalism. Things is that we are humans, so no system we ever come up with will ever be anywhere near perfect.

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                  @capngloval @amerpie describing capitalism as "not perfect" is kind of burying the lede. It is an awful system, designed by wicked people to accumulate power while simultaneously getting the have-nots to blame themselves for their failure to be one of the haves and crabs-in-a-barreling each other.

                  Capitalism is perfect, in the same way that a xenomorph is perfect. Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.

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                  • ? Guest

                    The real MLK was a radical. Take a moment today to learn something new about him. You will be glad you did.

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                    @amerpie Wait until MAGA finds out Jesus Christ was an early socialist, sharing bread & wine, feeding the poor & healing the sick without demanding monetary payment or recurring donations for legal defense funds not even existing!

                    Donnie may be able to walk on Trump wine โ€” after he dropped a bottle onto the floor.
                    But he'll never be able to walk on water.
                    And he's not above the law & won't ever be!

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                    • ? Guest

                      The real MLK was a radical. Take a moment today to learn something new about him. You will be glad you did.

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                      @amerpie not a radical. just an OG christian.

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                      • ๐ŸŒˆ Kerblambuli ๐Ÿฆ„C ๐ŸŒˆ Kerblambuli ๐Ÿฆ„

                        @Ultraverified @violetmadder @amerpie being, and staying, kind as well as loving in a society built on aggression is, by its very definition, a radical act in and of itself.

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                        @ChrisUplus @Ultraverified @amerpie

                        Exactly!

                        And while we're at it: "radix" from the Latin, root. The term "radical" refers to the fundamental origin of a thing, and came into heavier political use in the 18th century with people talking about suffrage and the abolition of slavery, calling for "radical reform" as in meaningful and dramatic change at the roots of an issue. In the wake of the upheaval of the 60s and 70s it was shortened to "rad" as a slang expression for something exciting and positive.

                        The concept itself is neutral, but conservatives are the ones who will tend to automatically view its connotations as bad and scary because they don't like change and don't want anybody rocking the boat. To them it is basically interchangeable with "extremist".

                        Dr. King was definitely out to rock the boat. A radical in the best way-- who was reviled, feared, hated, persecuted, murdered... and then the system did its best to sanitize and co-opt his legacy. We named some streets after him, yay civil rights, he won look racism is over everything is fixed okay everybody now go sit back down and shut up.

                        Nothing short of radical change can save us now, with the whole planet sprinting towards catastrophe for profit.

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                          @fbinin @amerpie gdp is growing pretty fast but the incomes arenโ€™t. Growth is only for the rich, the common man in India still lives without proper access to things.
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                            The real MLK was a radical. Take a moment today to learn something new about him. You will be glad you did.

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                            @amerpie YAY!!! Rare historical figure that was accually a good person o_O

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                            • J J Lou

                              @squirrel @amerpie naive is assuming the problems with the current system can be solved any other way

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                              @jlou @amerpie why would you though? say you could have something like the nordic model, instead? still capitalism, but with quite a bit of equality.

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                              • SquirrelS Squirrel

                                @jlou @amerpie why would you though? say you could have something like the nordic model, instead? still capitalism, but with quite a bit of equality.

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                                @squirrel @amerpie Nordic model doesnโ€™t resolve workersโ€™ inalienable rights violations that occur routinely under all forms of capitalism. Capitalism is deeply inefficient at allocating resources towards public goods and dealing with externalities.

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                                  @squirrel @amerpie Nordic model doesnโ€™t resolve workersโ€™ inalienable rights violations that occur routinely under all forms of capitalism. Capitalism is deeply inefficient at allocating resources towards public goods and dealing with externalities.

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                                  @jlou @amerpie what rights are being violated?

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                                  • SquirrelS Squirrel

                                    @jlou @amerpie what rights are being violated?

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                                    @squirrel @amerpie the inalienable right to appropriate the positive and negative fruits of your labor.

                                    Source: https://www.ellerman.org/inalienable-rights-part-i-the-basic-argument/

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                                      @squirrel @amerpie the inalienable right to appropriate the positive and negative fruits of your labor.

                                      Source: https://www.ellerman.org/inalienable-rights-part-i-the-basic-argument/

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                                      @jlou @amerpie thanks. that was interesting. these cooperatives are free to operate within a Nordic model, though. you don't have to burn it all down for these to gain traction.

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                                      • SquirrelS Squirrel

                                        @jlou @amerpie thanks. that was interesting. these cooperatives are free to operate within a Nordic model, though. you don't have to burn it all down for these to gain traction.

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                                        @squirrel @amerpie The problem is the violation of workersโ€™ inalienable rights in non-democratic non-cooperative firms. The employment contract must be abolished making all firmโ€™s democratic.

                                        Abolishing capitalism โ‰  burning it all down

                                        We can have economic democracy and keep many market institutions.

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                                          @squirrel @amerpie The problem is the violation of workersโ€™ inalienable rights in non-democratic non-cooperative firms. The employment contract must be abolished making all firmโ€™s democratic.

                                          Abolishing capitalism โ‰  burning it all down

                                          We can have economic democracy and keep many market institutions.

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                                          @jlou @amerpie I understand why somebody would want this. Myself, I kinda feel quite happy renting myself out and not having any responsibility for the fruits, good or bad, of my labor.

                                          I mean, it is a capable way or organizing, but I'm unsure if it is everything to everyone, if you know what I mean.

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