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  • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

    @UKFilmNerd Yeah, there's definitely a worry about AI given the Restoration Team's recent output...but that was for tape based stuff. They've specified that they've gone back to the original 35mm negatives for this one...I can't imagine them going to all that effort just to mess it up with AI. As for the visual effects, my guess is they'll either recreate them or upscale the effected shots.

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    @UKFilmNerd Looks like it was accidentally leaked early by Amazon, but there will no doubt be a trailer when it's officially announced which will give us some idea of what to expect.

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    • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

      @UKFilmNerd Looks like it was accidentally leaked early by Amazon, but there will no doubt be a trailer when it's officially announced which will give us some idea of what to expect.

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      @LaserdiscTurtle People on the internet won't scrutinise a trailer!? Whatever next! 😂

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      • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

        @emsquared I assume so. Looks like it briefly went up for pre-order on Amazon then disappeared. More details soon I imagine.

        Dolby Atmos and 5.1 were listed though, along with both the UK and US broadcast versions.

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        @LaserdiscTurtle There were different cuts for UK and USA? A bitter sweet release.He should've got way more than this one off (and the later brilliant shirt for the 50th) but get why it failed.

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        • EmsquaredE Emsquared

          @LaserdiscTurtle There were different cuts for UK and USA? A bitter sweet release.He should've got way more than this one off (and the later brilliant shirt for the 50th) but get why it failed.

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          @emsquared I think the only difference between the UK and US versions (other than frame rate...which I hope is now correct! Please no PAL speedup on 4K!) was the opening credits. I think the US one included an extra credit about Doctor Who belonging to the BBC, while the UK one included a tribute to Jon Pertwee who'd recently passed away.

          The UK cut was also lightly censored for violence, but the listing mentions that the UK version is uncensored, so the only difference might be the credits.

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          • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

            @emsquared I think the only difference between the UK and US versions (other than frame rate...which I hope is now correct! Please no PAL speedup on 4K!) was the opening credits. I think the US one included an extra credit about Doctor Who belonging to the BBC, while the UK one included a tribute to Jon Pertwee who'd recently passed away.

            The UK cut was also lightly censored for violence, but the listing mentions that the UK version is uncensored, so the only difference might be the credits.

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            @emsquared Also if you enjoy McGann then I highly recommend checking out his Big Finish audio adventures.

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            • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

              Wow! We always dreamed but never dared to hope...but it's finally happening! They've gone back to the original negatives and restored the Paul McGann #DoctorWho TV Movie in #4K!!!

              AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!

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              And here's the trailer!

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnvmFMA4q-A

              Looking good! Can't see any upscaling shenanigans.

              Also to my eyes it looks like they've re-created the special effects shots, but keeping them looking like mid-90s TV CGI. Nice!

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              • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

                And here's the trailer!

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnvmFMA4q-A

                Looking good! Can't see any upscaling shenanigans.

                Also to my eyes it looks like they've re-created the special effects shots, but keeping them looking like mid-90s TV CGI. Nice!

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                And here's the official announcement:

                https://www.doctorwho.tv/news-and-features/doctor-who-the-movie-has-been-newly-restored-for-4k-and-blu-ray

                "...all 219 reels of original film (totalling almost 200,000 feet!) have been pulled from deep storage in the US and meticulously scanned...with a 24-frame transfer to match the original film rushes, and immersive surround sound, rebuilt from the original raw sound elements."

                Correct frame rate confirmed! It's about time!

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                • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

                  And here's the official announcement:

                  https://www.doctorwho.tv/news-and-features/doctor-who-the-movie-has-been-newly-restored-for-4k-and-blu-ray

                  "...all 219 reels of original film (totalling almost 200,000 feet!) have been pulled from deep storage in the US and meticulously scanned...with a 24-frame transfer to match the original film rushes, and immersive surround sound, rebuilt from the original raw sound elements."

                  Correct frame rate confirmed! It's about time!

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                  @LaserdiscTurtle

                  and he's back 😉

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                  • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

                    And here's the official announcement:

                    https://www.doctorwho.tv/news-and-features/doctor-who-the-movie-has-been-newly-restored-for-4k-and-blu-ray

                    "...all 219 reels of original film (totalling almost 200,000 feet!) have been pulled from deep storage in the US and meticulously scanned...with a 24-frame transfer to match the original film rushes, and immersive surround sound, rebuilt from the original raw sound elements."

                    Correct frame rate confirmed! It's about time!

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                    Some people online saying the effects shots are AI upscaled...no official confirmation either way yet. I've only watched the trailer on my computer monitor, not my 4K TV, and while the effects shots look a bit smooth I don't notice anything that jumps out at me as being AI. Wait and see I guess.

                    Also no mention of HDR yet. You'd hope they'd include it if they've gone to the effort of going back to the original negatives.

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                    • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

                      And here's the official announcement:

                      https://www.doctorwho.tv/news-and-features/doctor-who-the-movie-has-been-newly-restored-for-4k-and-blu-ray

                      "...all 219 reels of original film (totalling almost 200,000 feet!) have been pulled from deep storage in the US and meticulously scanned...with a 24-frame transfer to match the original film rushes, and immersive surround sound, rebuilt from the original raw sound elements."

                      Correct frame rate confirmed! It's about time!

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                      @LaserdiscTurtle That sounds really impressive. What would be so offensive in Dr. Who that the US would censor it?

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                      • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

                        And here's the trailer!

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnvmFMA4q-A

                        Looking good! Can't see any upscaling shenanigans.

                        Also to my eyes it looks like they've re-created the special effects shots, but keeping them looking like mid-90s TV CGI. Nice!

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                        @LaserdiscTurtle Ha. Love how it's McCoy doing the promo voice over "starring *Me* and one or two others"... Very good.

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                        • John - 🎞️ Film Nerd 🎞️U John - 🎞️ Film Nerd 🎞️

                          @LaserdiscTurtle That sounds really impressive. What would be so offensive in Dr. Who that the US would censor it?

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                          @UKFilmNerd It was the other way around. Some of the gun violence was cut in the UK on first broadcast and VHS. The cuts were waived for the DVD release.

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                          • EmsquaredE Emsquared

                            @LaserdiscTurtle Ha. Love how it's McCoy doing the promo voice over "starring *Me* and one or two others"... Very good.

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                            @emsquared He's a legend!

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                            • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

                              Wow! We always dreamed but never dared to hope...but it's finally happening! They've gone back to the original negatives and restored the Paul McGann #DoctorWho TV Movie in #4K!!!

                              AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!

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                              @LaserdiscTurtle This is great news!

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                              • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

                                Wow! We always dreamed but never dared to hope...but it's finally happening! They've gone back to the original negatives and restored the Paul McGann #DoctorWho TV Movie in #4K!!!

                                AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!

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                                @LaserdiscTurtle that movie never got the plaudits it deserved. It was excellent!

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                                • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

                                  Some people online saying the effects shots are AI upscaled...no official confirmation either way yet. I've only watched the trailer on my computer monitor, not my 4K TV, and while the effects shots look a bit smooth I don't notice anything that jumps out at me as being AI. Wait and see I guess.

                                  Also no mention of HDR yet. You'd hope they'd include it if they've gone to the effort of going back to the original negatives.

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                                  A tweet from Paul Vanezis on the effects shots:

                                  "None of the original digital projects appear to have survived. However, the clean elements, including mattes were archived to digi-beta but at 30 frames. However, I discovered that everything was at 24P and just had to be retimed, so all of the upscaled effects are in true 24P."

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                                  • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

                                    Some people online saying the effects shots are AI upscaled...no official confirmation either way yet. I've only watched the trailer on my computer monitor, not my 4K TV, and while the effects shots look a bit smooth I don't notice anything that jumps out at me as being AI. Wait and see I guess.

                                    Also no mention of HDR yet. You'd hope they'd include it if they've gone to the effort of going back to the original negatives.

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                                    @LaserdiscTurtle No AI.

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                                    • Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)L Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)

                                      @emsquared Also if you enjoy McGann then I highly recommend checking out his Big Finish audio adventures.

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                                      @LaserdiscTurtle @emsquared I had indeed not heard before that there was a difference between the UK and US release.
                                      No idea now which version I have on disk.
                                      Looking forward to the screening.

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