Would I be upset if someone I like is in the Epstein Files?
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Would I be upset if someone I like is in the Epstein Files? Not really. I mean, I found out this year what a terrible human Neil Gaiman is, so moving forward, I will make the assumption that anyone with loads of money and means will probably be in that list. Regular folk rules don't apply after you've made a certain amount of money.
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Would I be upset if someone I like is in the Epstein Files? Not really. I mean, I found out this year what a terrible human Neil Gaiman is, so moving forward, I will make the assumption that anyone with loads of money and means will probably be in that list. Regular folk rules don't apply after you've made a certain amount of money.
Neil Gaiman's fall from grace made me cry. He lived just down the road from me here in Wisconsin. Menomonie - me no money.
The Guardian says he's been cleared. I don't know what to believe.
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Neil Gaiman's fall from grace made me cry. He lived just down the road from me here in Wisconsin. Menomonie - me no money.
The Guardian says he's been cleared. I don't know what to believe.
@tuban_muzuru Gaiman has not been "cleared." Cases have been dismissed due to technicalities. @GayDeceiver
https://apnews.com/article/neil-gaiman-sexual-assault-lawsuits-nanny-dismissed-01f3ad62d4b23115685f51b062410618 -
@tuban_muzuru Gaiman has not been "cleared." Cases have been dismissed due to technicalities. @GayDeceiver
https://apnews.com/article/neil-gaiman-sexual-assault-lawsuits-nanny-dismissed-01f3ad62d4b23115685f51b062410618That's entirely correct - he was acquitted and many people don't like it, but what what man calls the law another will call a technicality.
I will not defend him.
I don't know what to think. I hope the many talents assembled which issued Sandman get their recognition
Charles Vess — Issue #19, "A Midsummer Night's Dream" (the one that won the World Fantasy Award).
Jill Thompson — "Brief Lives" (#41–49). Warm, expressive linework for one of the series' most emotionally rich storylines.
P. Craig Russell — "Ramadan" (#50). A gorgeous standalone issue.
Michael Zulli — "The Wake" (#70–73) and several earlier issues. His detailed, painterly realism gave the finale a fittingly elegiac quality.
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That's entirely correct - he was acquitted and many people don't like it, but what what man calls the law another will call a technicality.
I will not defend him.
I don't know what to think. I hope the many talents assembled which issued Sandman get their recognition
Charles Vess — Issue #19, "A Midsummer Night's Dream" (the one that won the World Fantasy Award).
Jill Thompson — "Brief Lives" (#41–49). Warm, expressive linework for one of the series' most emotionally rich storylines.
P. Craig Russell — "Ramadan" (#50). A gorgeous standalone issue.
Michael Zulli — "The Wake" (#70–73) and several earlier issues. His detailed, painterly realism gave the finale a fittingly elegiac quality.
@tuban_muzuru He was also not acquitted. The cases never went to trial. @GayDeceiver
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@tuban_muzuru He was also not acquitted. The cases never went to trial. @GayDeceiver
[slaps forehead] You are correct, I was wrong.
True, he has not been acquitted — but he also hasn't been criminally charged or tried, so there's nothing to be acquitted of in a criminal sense.
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[slaps forehead] You are correct, I was wrong.
True, he has not been acquitted — but he also hasn't been criminally charged or tried, so there's nothing to be acquitted of in a criminal sense.
@tuban_muzuru @mfennvt @GayDeceiver
It's bleedingly obvious he is guilty as fuck, but the US court correctly ruled that it did not have jurisdiction
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@tuban_muzuru @mfennvt @GayDeceiver
It's bleedingly obvious he is guilty as fuck, but the US court correctly ruled that it did not have jurisdiction
@tuban_muzuru @mfennvt @GayDeceiver
This doesn't mean that you should stop enjoying his work.
If we stopped enjoying the work of every artist who has been sexually abusive, about half the Western canon would be no more.
Paul Gauguin is a case in point. In my opinion he is a much BETTER artist if you look at his work as being through the eyes of an abuser than if you think he's innocent.
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@tuban_muzuru @mfennvt @GayDeceiver
This doesn't mean that you should stop enjoying his work.
If we stopped enjoying the work of every artist who has been sexually abusive, about half the Western canon would be no more.
Paul Gauguin is a case in point. In my opinion he is a much BETTER artist if you look at his work as being through the eyes of an abuser than if you think he's innocent.
@regordane @tuban_muzuru @mfennvt @GayDeceiver It means I cannot enjoy his work, for the same reason I cannot enjoy J.K. Rowling's work, or Michael Jackson's, or that of a list of others: it will inevitably remind me of bad people doing bad things. That poisons the experience, and forecloses any chance of enjoyment.
Separating the art from the artist is a lovely idea. Maybe some people can do that to some real degree. For me it is just as false, facile, toxic, and impracticable as 'love the sinner, hate the sin'.
It's messy and grey, because there are very few who could pass a go/no-go purity test – and money and fame aggravate the worst in a lot of people, as it seems. John Lennon and Elton John teeter on the crumbly edge for me, but at least Lennon found it in himself to publicly rue his awful behaviour and talk about it forthrightly.
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