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If I worked for Mastodon, I would create a turn key solution for parties that want to set up a Mastodon server for all their party candidates.

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  • Miha MarkičM Miha Markič

    @randahl @_elena even more ironic are non right wing parties which are really totally against fascism. Which they communicate on fascist networks...

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    #69

    @mihamarkic @randahl @_elena Most of them post their emails on their contact pages. Have you been sending them emails asking them how they can justify staying on platforms such as X? I have. I have asked others to do the same. Have you?

    It's not just a case of hypocrisy. It's also true that their social media presence is not their primary focus. If nobody ever approaches them over it, it's out of sight, out of mind for them.

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    • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

      @randahl yesterday at FOSDEM there was a member of the European Parliament who was asked why so many politicians are still on X and her answer made total sense (sadly):

      Politicians stay on X because journalists are still there, so they feel that if they leave they will become irrelevant / not be written about.

      And journalists stay on X because politicians are there.

      It’s a vicious cycle

      tessaraktT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #70

      @_elena @randahl They could just bridge their Fediverse posts to X ...

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      • G Gerrit 🇪🇺🌍🍉🔻

        @_elena @randahl

        A cycle is only a cycle if you don't step out of it.

        And I will also say this, if your political "success" depends on lazy journalists grabbing your lazy messages from X and slap dashing lazy articles with X screenshots of what you "said", then you are not the politician you think you are.

        And for the others, what you fear is not what actually will happen. Stepping away from X will not make you irrelevant. On the contrary, it will put you in the spotlight.

        Pino CarafaR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #71

        @gvenema @_elena @randahl exactly. And please share the contact details of the (Dutch? Belgian?) politicians and journalists you have already approached about this.

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        • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

          @greenpartyni THANK YOU for being here! Someone mentioned you at FOSDEM last weekend. I wish ALL political parties would follow your example, especially here in Europe (but honestly, everywhere) 🙌
          @randahl

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          #72

          @_elena @randahl that’s amazing to hear that. Love your Fediverse video. Will share it around.

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          • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

            @_elena @randahl that’s amazing to hear that. Love your Fediverse video. Will share it around.

            Elena Rossini ⁂_ This user is from outside of this forum
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            Elena Rossini ⁂
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            #73

            @greenpartyni thank you!!! 💚 @randahl

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            • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

              @randahl yesterday at FOSDEM there was a member of the European Parliament who was asked why so many politicians are still on X and her answer made total sense (sadly):

              Politicians stay on X because journalists are still there, so they feel that if they leave they will become irrelevant / not be written about.

              And journalists stay on X because politicians are there.

              It’s a vicious cycle

              Antoine TalyA This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #74

              @randahl @_elena that might explain why they are on X but not why they are _only_ on X.
              If they would communicate on multiple platforms that would provide an exit trajectory...

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              • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                @randahl yesterday at FOSDEM there was a member of the European Parliament who was asked why so many politicians are still on X and her answer made total sense (sadly):

                Politicians stay on X because journalists are still there, so they feel that if they leave they will become irrelevant / not be written about.

                And journalists stay on X because politicians are there.

                It’s a vicious cycle

                Interpipes 💙I This user is from outside of this forum
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                #75

                @_elena @randahl @tdp_org but, of course, the journalists will go where the politicians are.

                Maybe some of our politicians should be less worried about how often journalists write about them and instead focus more on /what/ would be written about them in years to come.

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                • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                  @randahl yesterday at FOSDEM there was a member of the European Parliament who was asked why so many politicians are still on X and her answer made total sense (sadly):

                  Politicians stay on X because journalists are still there, so they feel that if they leave they will become irrelevant / not be written about.

                  And journalists stay on X because politicians are there.

                  It’s a vicious cycle

                  supernovaS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #76

                  @_elena @randahl there are politicians a journalist cannot live without. If they switch, all switch.

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                  • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                    @randahl yesterday at FOSDEM there was a member of the European Parliament who was asked why so many politicians are still on X and her answer made total sense (sadly):

                    Politicians stay on X because journalists are still there, so they feel that if they leave they will become irrelevant / not be written about.

                    And journalists stay on X because politicians are there.

                    It’s a vicious cycle

                    nathan@ublog.hurel.meN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #77

                    @randahl@mastodon.social @_elena@mastodon.social yeah but it's not one or the other. They can and should post on multiple platforms.

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                    • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                      @randahl yesterday at FOSDEM there was a member of the European Parliament who was asked why so many politicians are still on X and her answer made total sense (sadly):

                      Politicians stay on X because journalists are still there, so they feel that if they leave they will become irrelevant / not be written about.

                      And journalists stay on X because politicians are there.

                      It’s a vicious cycle

                      RenéM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #78

                      @_elena Breaking the circle: politicians hold there #x account but make a separate one on other social media platform(s). Then publish in one sentence there message on #x and publish there whole comments elsewhere. On x they should make a reference on which platform they can read all about it. It’s not perfect, it takes time. But it can works. Journalist Will always be there where the news is. #

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                      • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                        @randahl yesterday at FOSDEM there was a member of the European Parliament who was asked why so many politicians are still on X and her answer made total sense (sadly):

                        Politicians stay on X because journalists are still there, so they feel that if they leave they will become irrelevant / not be written about.

                        And journalists stay on X because politicians are there.

                        It’s a vicious cycle

                        Jörn NettingsmeierN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Jörn Nettingsmeier
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                        #79

                        @_elena @randahl No it's not. Just refuse.

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                        • Kevin Karhan :verified:K Kevin Karhan :verified:

                          @the_moep @randahl @osma @fuchsiii Granted, that doesn't do #Backups, #Restore, deliver a sound configuration you can expose to the #Internet nor prevents bad actors from hammering your instance...

                          • Also this shouldn't be a necessity. Most people don't #SelfHost their #eMail, and that is way less complex than #Mastodon...

                          We may feel comfortable #SelfHosting but 99,99% of the "#Normies" who are so #TechIlliterate they'd only think of #Docker as in LifeInvader "Dock" from GTA5 or think of something else with shipping.

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                          #80

                          @kkarhan @randahl @osma @fuchsiii
                          Of course it's not enough to do at perfectly, and I would recommend anyone wanting to just use it to use an existing instance by semi-professionals.

                          But getting started just as a hobby is easy, and the ones doing it professionally or for others in a professional setting (like parties or companies) probably (hopefully) know how to run webservices properly already. 👀

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                          • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                            If I worked for Mastodon, I would create a turn key solution for parties that want to set up a Mastodon server for all their party candidates.

                            Ilhan Omar is still on X.
                            Bernie Sanders is still on X.
                            AOC is still on X.

                            Make it easy for them to switch. Then make sure they are aware of this option.

                            Bret CarmichaelB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Bret Carmichael
                            wrote last edited by
                            #81

                            @randahl It wouldn’t matter. Politicians and journalists stay on X because they believe their audience is there. Given the values they advocate, there’s some irony that they continue to support X through their presence on the platform. Though, there’s been some cross-posting to Bluesky as its user base grows.

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                            • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                              @stinerman why?

                              Nathan A. StineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #82

                              @randahl there was some talk of it on the discord server. I honestly don't recall. Perhaps some of the Mastodon employees would know.

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