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Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projectionhttps://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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  • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

    Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
    https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

    Raven LuniR This user is from outside of this forum
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    Raven Luni
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    @infobeautiful
    Well Austrailia is wrong for a start since about 70% is desert / uninhabited

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    • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

      Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
      https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

      WintergreenW This user is from outside of this forum
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      Wintergreen
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      #26

      @infobeautiful

      Kazakhstan is huge, but it's not that huge.

      Maybe I'm confused about what this is showing.

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      • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

        Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
        https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

        malteM This user is from outside of this forum
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        malte
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        #27

        @infobeautiful What would the "True Country Size Map" be called? I'm ready to orient myself toward something else than the Mercator map projection.

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        • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

          Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
          https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

          Alejandro_PA This user is from outside of this forum
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          Alejandro_P
          wrote last edited by
          #28

          @infobeautiful Equadorians have no issue with this projection tho

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          • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

            Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
            https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

            quixoteQ This user is from outside of this forum
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            quixote
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            #29

            @infobeautiful Very useful to see. Done by a professional, so I must be wrong, but where I am (north New Zealand) is at about the same latitude as San Francisco, but we seem to be less shrunk?

            Re discussion about more realistic projections, my favourite is Cahill-Keyes. http://www.genekeyes.com/world_map_poster.html

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            • malteM malte

              @infobeautiful What would the "True Country Size Map" be called? I'm ready to orient myself toward something else than the Mercator map projection.

              WintergreenW This user is from outside of this forum
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              Wintergreen
              wrote last edited by
              #30

              @malte @infobeautiful

              Yeah, I would rather just see a new map than this.

              OK, here's two:

              http://www.authagraph.com/projects/description/%E3%80%90%E4%BD%9C%E5%93%81%E8%A7%A3%E8%AA%AC%E3%80%91%E8%A8%98%E4%BA%8B01/?lang=en

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dymaxion_map

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              • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

                ๏ฟฝU This user is from outside of this forum
                ๏ฟฝU This user is from outside of this forum
                ๏ฟฝ
                wrote last edited by
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                @infobeautiful https://realcountrysizes.com/

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                • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                  Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                  https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

                  Rob van Kan๐Ÿ”ปE This user is from outside of this forum
                  Rob van Kan๐Ÿ”ปE This user is from outside of this forum
                  Rob van Kan๐Ÿ”ป
                  wrote last edited by
                  #32

                  @infobeautiful it all depends on what the purpose of the map is.

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                  • Lokjo - a European online mapL Lokjo - a European online map

                    @Osteopenia_Powers @stevefaeembra @x_tof @infobeautiful

                    Not sure if this is the link you wanted to post.

                    Osteopenia Powers ,O This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Osteopenia Powers ,
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                    @lokjo
                    Thanks, I'll fix it.
                    @stevefaeembra @x_tof @infobeautiful

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                    • Rob van Kan๐Ÿ”ปE Rob van Kan๐Ÿ”ป

                      @infobeautiful it all depends on what the purpose of the map is.

                      Alistair KL This user is from outside of this forum
                      Alistair KL This user is from outside of this forum
                      Alistair K
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                      #34

                      @edgeofeurope @infobeautiful Indeed. I feel that the anti-Mercator abuse neglects what the projection is good for, and what practical problem it was invented to solve.

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                      • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                        Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                        https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

                        sleepy62๐Ÿ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ ๐Ÿ”ฌ ๐ŸŒžS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        sleepy62๐Ÿ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ ๐Ÿ”ฌ ๐ŸŒž
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                        @infobeautiful

                        A very bad graphic. The point is taken but that map is very inaccurate. Eg the Canadian southern border should fit perfectly with the USA but it is shrink way too much. There are much better maps which account for there projection errors.

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                        • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                          Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                          https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

                          Bruce Heerssen :guillotine:B This user is from outside of this forum
                          Bruce Heerssen :guillotine:B This user is from outside of this forum
                          Bruce Heerssen :guillotine:
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                          @infobeautiful

                          What this map shows is that America's penis (Florida) is much smaller than Americans think.

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                          • quixoteQ quixote

                            @infobeautiful Very useful to see. Done by a professional, so I must be wrong, but where I am (north New Zealand) is at about the same latitude as San Francisco, but we seem to be less shrunk?

                            Re discussion about more realistic projections, my favourite is Cahill-Keyes. http://www.genekeyes.com/world_map_poster.html

                            Alistair KL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Alistair K
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                            @quixote @infobeautiful I have a feeling that it looks this way because NZ is smaller so, though the percentage difference is about the same, the absolute difference is smaller and less obvious to the eye in this colour scheme โ€“ at first glance, I don't see the NZ area difference at all because the colours are so close. Which means that the map maybe wasn't really made by an especially expert expert. Or else that the colour scheme was chosen exactly for that reason: to show that the southern lands are mistakenly thought to be much much smaller than they really are, relative to the northern. My son's godparents had no idea how big New Zealand was until they came to visit us; they were initially planning their trip on the understanding that the whole country was about the size of New England. These are Ivy educated people, both PhDs, both academics. Even they fell for it.

                            The more interesting thing that I see on this map is how, because the latitudes are omitted, the area scaling looks so asymmetric โ€“ you can't see that the equator is markedly within the lower half rather than through the middle and a lot of people have little idea of where the equator is. I have a feeling that this is its primary intention.

                            Still, the primary point of the Mercator projection is that it's good for compass navigation. Our failure to teach this is the problem โ€“ hiding the purpose sets learners up to use maps inappropriately for their whole lives.

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                            • BobDevneyB BobDevney

                              @infobeautiful

                              Fascinating, thanks!

                              Here's obligatory link to great bit from TV's "The West Wing." Where cartographers compare Mercator versus Peters projections for stunned C.J. and Josh.

                              The head map guy is played with perfect drollery by the invaluable John Billingsley (Star Trek: Enterprise; The Man from Earth, etc.).

                              Cartographer: "Nothing's where you think it is."
                              C.J: "Where is it?"
                              Cartographer: "I'm glad you askedโ€ฆ"

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Xyz9MgDWA

                              #Maps #TV #Imperialism #Cartography

                              IcooIeyI This user is from outside of this forum
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                              IcooIey
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                              @BobDevney @infobeautiful You canโ€™t do that.

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                              • Bruce Heerssen :guillotine:B Bruce Heerssen :guillotine:

                                @infobeautiful

                                What this map shows is that America's penis (Florida) is much smaller than Americans think.

                                HeliographH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Heliograph
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                                #39

                                @bruce you beat me to it >.< @infobeautiful

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                                • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                                  Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                                  https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

                                  HeliographH This user is from outside of this forum
                                  HeliographH This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Heliograph
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #40

                                  @infobeautiful oh look how tiny #murica really is... just like his hands

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                                  • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                                    Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                                    https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

                                    The Flight AttendantC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    The Flight Attendant
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                                    #41

                                    @infobeautiful Someone please fwd this to trump

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                                    • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                                      Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                                      https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

                                      Tor LillqvistT This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Tor LillqvistT This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Tor Lillqvist
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                                      #42

                                      @infobeautiful "Yet another"? Isn't that the one reason why people keep tutting at it all the time?

                                      (And, sadly, many probably think that Mercator is the only projection with this particular distortion or that there are ideal projections that don't distort anything.)

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                                      • Alistair KL Alistair K

                                        @quixote @infobeautiful I have a feeling that it looks this way because NZ is smaller so, though the percentage difference is about the same, the absolute difference is smaller and less obvious to the eye in this colour scheme โ€“ at first glance, I don't see the NZ area difference at all because the colours are so close. Which means that the map maybe wasn't really made by an especially expert expert. Or else that the colour scheme was chosen exactly for that reason: to show that the southern lands are mistakenly thought to be much much smaller than they really are, relative to the northern. My son's godparents had no idea how big New Zealand was until they came to visit us; they were initially planning their trip on the understanding that the whole country was about the size of New England. These are Ivy educated people, both PhDs, both academics. Even they fell for it.

                                        The more interesting thing that I see on this map is how, because the latitudes are omitted, the area scaling looks so asymmetric โ€“ you can't see that the equator is markedly within the lower half rather than through the middle and a lot of people have little idea of where the equator is. I have a feeling that this is its primary intention.

                                        Still, the primary point of the Mercator projection is that it's good for compass navigation. Our failure to teach this is the problem โ€“ hiding the purpose sets learners up to use maps inappropriately for their whole lives.

                                        quixoteQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        quixote
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                                        @libroraptor @infobeautiful Indeed! I was surprised to hear that NZ is about the same size as California from top to bottom and side to side. They have a lot of nerve just constantly dropping us off world maps all the time, don't they? ๐Ÿ˜†

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                                        • Information Is BeautifulI Information Is Beautiful

                                          Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                                          https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

                                          Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Toni Aittoniemi
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                                          @infobeautiful iโ€™m definitely a fan of the Peters Projection.

                                          I clearly remember a ๐Ÿคฏ moment from first or second grade when I saw it for the first time!

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