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  3. This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda.

This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda.

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  • jnkrtechJ jnkrtech

    This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda. It’s more than just a surface-level advertising message. It makes the unstated assumption that workers are all in a state of conflict, racing against one another in competition for acceptable employment. This is the literal opposite of class consciousness! All workers should be aiming for a world where we don’t have to fight each other to earn a chance at a decent life.

    Eric LawtonE This user is from outside of this forum
    Eric LawtonE This user is from outside of this forum
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    @jnkrtech

    "Workers who don't adopt mechanical looms and spinning machines will be left behind'.

    No workers said "Cool, I want to work in a dark, satanic mill, where I'll go deaf and die early of lung disease".

    Ned Ludd was right.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

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    • jnkrtechJ jnkrtech

      This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda. It’s more than just a surface-level advertising message. It makes the unstated assumption that workers are all in a state of conflict, racing against one another in competition for acceptable employment. This is the literal opposite of class consciousness! All workers should be aiming for a world where we don’t have to fight each other to earn a chance at a decent life.

      John 🔞A This user is from outside of this forum
      John 🔞A This user is from outside of this forum
      John 🔞
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      @jnkrtech I wish more people understood this.

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      • jnkrtechJ jnkrtech

        This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda. It’s more than just a surface-level advertising message. It makes the unstated assumption that workers are all in a state of conflict, racing against one another in competition for acceptable employment. This is the literal opposite of class consciousness! All workers should be aiming for a world where we don’t have to fight each other to earn a chance at a decent life.

        Jason StuartJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jason StuartJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jason Stuart
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        @jnkrtech

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        • jnkrtechJ jnkrtech

          Highly-trained LLMs are a form of capital. They are produced by extracting knowledge from text which workers have made, and they cannot be made practically useful without vast compute expenditures. The companies which make them seek to recoup their costs by renting them out, primarily to corporations which want to use them to reduce the number of workers which they employ. The facts are straightforward, and the net effect is a wealth transfer from workers to owners.

          Current attempts at producing large-scale social or economic transformations via generative AI are an unavoidably right-wing political project.

          John TinkerJ This user is from outside of this forum
          John TinkerJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @jnkrtech
          The LLM is a statistical analysis of a corpus of language. In a sense, it is language in, language out, with math in the middle. The math is done on the corpus. The "front end" is parsing user intent against the business logic that built the machine, and inducing output from the LLM. For those who are interested in language itself, and how language has been used, it is a tool of considerable impact, I think.

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          • jnkrtechJ jnkrtech

            This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda. It’s more than just a surface-level advertising message. It makes the unstated assumption that workers are all in a state of conflict, racing against one another in competition for acceptable employment. This is the literal opposite of class consciousness! All workers should be aiming for a world where we don’t have to fight each other to earn a chance at a decent life.

            NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
            NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
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            @jnkrtech it's worse than that. They want everyone using AI because LLM-mediated genre capture makes people easy to control. When we all start speaking the machine's language of legible coherence, and flatten all edges and inconsistencies into nothing by recognizing them as errors... no one will need to be dominated or controlled. They'll control themselves.

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            • jnkrtechJ jnkrtech

              This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda. It’s more than just a surface-level advertising message. It makes the unstated assumption that workers are all in a state of conflict, racing against one another in competition for acceptable employment. This is the literal opposite of class consciousness! All workers should be aiming for a world where we don’t have to fight each other to earn a chance at a decent life.

              Christopher Keener, pHd :ddg:R This user is from outside of this forum
              Christopher Keener, pHd :ddg:R This user is from outside of this forum
              Christopher Keener, pHd :ddg:
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              @jnkrtech thank you for sharing your well-worded perspective on such an important topic.

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              • jnkrtechJ jnkrtech

                This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda. It’s more than just a surface-level advertising message. It makes the unstated assumption that workers are all in a state of conflict, racing against one another in competition for acceptable employment. This is the literal opposite of class consciousness! All workers should be aiming for a world where we don’t have to fight each other to earn a chance at a decent life.

                alethenorioA This user is from outside of this forum
                alethenorioA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @jnkrtech unfortunately that's not how reality works though. Ultimately, in competitive markets, underperformers will be at a risk of losing their jobs. And while there are many who perform just fine without these kinds of tools, it is looking like LLMs are raising the performance bar across the board meaning those using them will just have an advantage over many others who choose not to.

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                • alethenorioA alethenorio

                  @jnkrtech unfortunately that's not how reality works though. Ultimately, in competitive markets, underperformers will be at a risk of losing their jobs. And while there are many who perform just fine without these kinds of tools, it is looking like LLMs are raising the performance bar across the board meaning those using them will just have an advantage over many others who choose not to.

                  jnkrtechJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jnkrtechJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @alethenorio congratulations on demonstrating the exact mindset that I’m calling out as socially harmful

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                  • jnkrtechJ jnkrtech

                    @alethenorio congratulations on demonstrating the exact mindset that I’m calling out as socially harmful

                    alethenorioA This user is from outside of this forum
                    alethenorioA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @jnkrtech it's not a mindset. I am not saying whether it is right or wrong. I'm just stating facts.

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                    • alethenorioA alethenorio

                      @jnkrtech it's not a mindset. I am not saying whether it is right or wrong. I'm just stating facts.

                      Orb 2069O This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @alethenorio @jnkrtech

                      Do these facts care about our feelings?

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