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  3. @mr_daemon this, but also: the number of encarbulator dot com websites I've seen that also do not tell you what it is/does on the main page, or even anywhere within a click or two, is too damn high!

@mr_daemon this, but also: the number of encarbulator dot com websites I've seen that also do not tell you what it is/does on the main page, or even anywhere within a click or two, is too damn high!

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  • tessaraktT This user is from outside of this forum
    tessaraktT This user is from outside of this forum
    tessarakt
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    @mr_daemon it encarbulates stuff, I would hope?

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    • zormitZ This user is from outside of this forum
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      zormit
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      @mr_daemon if the profile and the website and the link to the release explain it, does the toot really need it?

      I see it as a trade-off between more noise for those who know (which are probably most followers) and the reduced effort for those who don't know. The hope is that the latter can find out easily.

      Example is the last release announcement of @teamtype where we didn't include the explanation. I'm open to include it in the future, but it's not yet 100% clear to me that that's better.

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        @mr_daemon @retrotechshop
        Also don't say "Our new product [ThisThing] is available - it's like [ThatThing*]" - *I've never heard of ThatThing either, so saying it's "like" it is telling me nothing. πŸ™„

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        • TobiasC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mr_daemon the ... what?

          https://youtu.be/RXJKdh1KZ0w?si=QCm_GMc_bUsh5kvi

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          • zormitZ zormit

            @mr_daemon if the profile and the website and the link to the release explain it, does the toot really need it?

            I see it as a trade-off between more noise for those who know (which are probably most followers) and the reduced effort for those who don't know. The hope is that the latter can find out easily.

            Example is the last release announcement of @teamtype where we didn't include the explanation. I'm open to include it in the future, but it's not yet 100% clear to me that that's better.

            JavierJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            Javier
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            @mr_daemon @teamtype @zormit

            > if the profile and the website and the link to the release explain it, does the toot really need it?

            Yes, absolutely.

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            • zormitZ zormit

              @mr_daemon if the profile and the website and the link to the release explain it, does the toot really need it?

              I see it as a trade-off between more noise for those who know (which are probably most followers) and the reduced effort for those who don't know. The hope is that the latter can find out easily.

              Example is the last release announcement of @teamtype where we didn't include the explanation. I'm open to include it in the future, but it's not yet 100% clear to me that that's better.

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              unkx
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              @zormit @mr_daemon

              https://xkcd.com/2501

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              • FediThing :progress_pride:F This user is from outside of this forum
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                @mr_daemon

                Also please put this description on the website for your thing!

                There are so many websites now that don't give any clue as to what they actually are or do. Adding a simple "About" link to a straightforward explanation of the thing would be brilliant (imagine you're writing the Wikipedia page for your thing rather than marketing hype).

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                • Saxicola βœ… 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊS Saxicola βœ… 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                  @mr_daemon
                  I often find myself saying "but what does it do?", when reading the README of projects hosted on Git**b. I generally then move on to some other task.

                  Michael KohneM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Michael KohneM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Michael Kohne
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                  #17

                  @saxicola @mr_daemon Gods what an annoyance. Just one line guys, I need to know if the search that brought me here was in any way successful or a wrong turn!

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                  • chrysnC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @mr_daemon Oups, I should have known to do better announcing at https://floss.social/@ariel/116012863584455141 😞

                    Thanks for the reminder.

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                    • Greg BellF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #19

                      @mr_daemon @gsuberland so say we all!

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                      • TonyL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @mr_daemon we're still stuck on libencarbulator turbo++ 1.7 because of some other dependencies #techdebt

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                        • Originalboy2O This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @mr_daemon@untrusted.website Gachastuck still in development now still doesn't support downloading and playing the game

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                          • FediThing :progress_pride:F FediThing :progress_pride:

                            @mr_daemon

                            Also please put this description on the website for your thing!

                            There are so many websites now that don't give any clue as to what they actually are or do. Adding a simple "About" link to a straightforward explanation of the thing would be brilliant (imagine you're writing the Wikipedia page for your thing rather than marketing hype).

                            Daniel β˜€:oh_no_bubble:D This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Daniel β˜€:oh_no_bubble:
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                            @FediThing @mr_daemon > imagine you're writing the Wikipedia page for your thing rather than marketing hype
                            I think this is good advice.

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                            • Fritz AdalisF Fritz Adalis

                              @mr_daemon @aburka
                              Oh cool, 2.8a is out?

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                              George Saich
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                              @FritzAdalis @mr_daemon @aburka πŸ†

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                              • ChaseC Chase

                                @mr_daemon @wez it's even worse now since most websites first blast you in the face about some AI bullshit they put in

                                mirabilosM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                mirabilos
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                                @Chase @mr_daemon @wez that’s good though because it serves as an immediate β€œyou’re out”.

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                                  @mr_daemon @retrotechshop
                                  Also don't say "Our new product [ThisThing] is available - it's like [ThatThing*]" - *I've never heard of ThatThing either, so saying it's "like" it is telling me nothing. πŸ™„

                                  Wouter VerhelstW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Wouter Verhelst
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                                  @SmartmanApps
                                  The only exception where that makes sense is if its sole purpose is to be like ThatThing. But then you phrase it differently.

                                  "ThisThing, a free software alternative of the proprietary ThatThing, is now available!"

                                  Other than that, yeah, I agree.
                                  @mr_daemon @retrotechshop
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                                  • HaraldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @mr_daemon

                                    Absolutely agree.πŸ‘

                                    Is this OK: https://nrw.social/@HaraldKi/116017691942879440

                                    There is obviously a tradeoff between describing what it is, and what is new given the message length limit. But, hmm, reevaluating, the former is probably more important as absolutely nobody knows what is is anyway.

                                    (Could't resist this ultimate chance for some self promotion. πŸ˜‰ )

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                                    • Alexander KnochelQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Alexander Knochel
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                                      @mr_daemon finally the new libencarbulator, I almost missed it!

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                                        @mr_daemon
                                        I often find myself saying "but what does it do?", when reading the README of projects hosted on Git**b. I generally then move on to some other task.

                                        njsgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        njsg
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                                        @saxicola @mr_daemon Text files on github? I usually find myself saying "what was it that I have to do to be able to read this" and may either change "/blob/" to "/raw/" or just close the tab right away.

                                        (Granted, github sometimes puts some of these as part of the directory list (... when it feels like serving the directory listing instead of JS), but that tends to be more an exception, unless all the README files you want to read are always the one it picks to show (I'm also thinking some codebases often have more than one relevant text file, if not even several READMEs).)

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