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With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!!

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  • D Douglas Paul

    @taylorlorenz

    Maybe change the name Mastodon to something lighter.

    Compare the mental image Mastodon produces to TikTok, Twitter, BlueSky.

    KerstinD This user is from outside of this forum
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    Kerstin
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    #90

    @douglasthiel @taylorlorenz I also believe that the solution is that simple.

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    • E C

      @taylorlorenz I moved to Mastodon because of the it’s decentralized model, but as a not overly technical person it’s not as easy to use. Some of the other platforms and a lot of friends are coasting on the other corporate platforms because they have their friend networks there.

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      garrett
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      #91

      @eggsandtoast @taylorlorenz Great point! Entirely the threshold to EXIT on the other platforms rather than a threshold to enter Mastodon.

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      • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

        With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

        Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

        SilenceEtchedOnAWallS This user is from outside of this forum
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        SilenceEtchedOnAWall
        wrote last edited by
        #92

        I encourage anyone to try LARPING as a potential mastodon user who has experience with other social media but not Mastodon. For example, let's say they're a new user that likes reading books and wants to find posts about books. Or sports. Or anything. Mastodon tells such a user at multiple checkpoints that it's closed to them or that it's a ghost town and no one here is discussing such things.

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        • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

          With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

          Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

          Philcoyote777P This user is from outside of this forum
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          Philcoyote777
          wrote last edited by
          #93

          @taylorlorenz when I explain mastodon to people they are thrilled to join. I haven't ever enjoyed FB like this platform. Give it time. The word is out!

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          • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

            With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

            Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

            C This user is from outside of this forum
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            Christian
            wrote last edited by
            #94

            @taylorlorenz
            I think the biggest barrier is that it is just a social network. It is missing commercialisation. You can just be here. So it doesn't work for the majority of influencers, that make money on advertising. It works for the ones that have an interest in a topic and earn their money otherwise. But Mastodon will never develop the drive as other platforms and I think that is good...

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            • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

              With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

              Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

              Charles HayG This user is from outside of this forum
              Charles HayG This user is from outside of this forum
              Charles Hay
              wrote last edited by
              #95

              @taylorlorenz if Mastodon had exploded at the same time as Twitter back in the late 2000s, I don’t think there would be an issue. As much as people complain though, I think they generally prefer algorithmic, simpler alternatives.

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              • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                MMoia
                wrote last edited by
                #96

                @taylorlorenz .. it’s all about interactive communication.. people want a news feed page where they can share an opinion of feelings and thoughts and have it available to interact.. Facebook is very good doing so, that is why it is so popular.

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                • Mastodon MigrationM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Mastodon MigrationM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Mastodon Migration
                  wrote last edited by
                  #97

                  @Jamoteusz @taylorlorenz

                  And yet folks spend inordinate amounts of time and effort on SEO and complex strategies to spoof the algorithms to promote their content.

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                  • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                    With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                    Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                    A This user is from outside of this forum
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                    AndreasEnglert
                    wrote last edited by
                    #98

                    @taylorlorenz I believe the problem is that there is not a lot of information about Mastodon. I just joined yesterday because I wanted to get away from TikTok and just happened to stumble upon this platform by searching for No Tracking Social Media.

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                    • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                      With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                      Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                      @martlund  🌲🐶🇸🇪🇨🇱🌈M This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @martlund 🌲🐶🇸🇪🇨🇱🌈
                      wrote last edited by
                      #99

                      @taylorlorenz Maybe too confusing to know which one, since there are so many

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                      • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                        With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                        Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                        Andrei Kucharavy
                        wrote last edited by
                        #100

                        @taylorlorenz transparency/trust on legal & effective free speech protection; commercial content instances (de)-federation; lack of visibility for famous accounts; lack of context for posts; lack of any algorithm.

                        And additionally the fact that commercial social media to everything to maximize engagement and time on the platform, while Mastodon tries to keep the protocol and the initial instance up, running, and minimally sane.

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                        • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                          With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                          Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                          ChrisC This user is from outside of this forum
                          ChrisC This user is from outside of this forum
                          Chris
                          wrote last edited by
                          #101

                          @taylorlorenz honestly, the people that love (are addicted to?) Tiktok and Instagram *want* an algorithm feeding them, or at least want the option. Additionally, Mastodon simply doesn't have the same addiction-based behavioral design... When most of your time is spent reading text or viewing a static image, the endorfin hit is just much smaller and spread out. In that way neither does Twitter, but the last ingredient is siloed rage. Fewer people with more consistent views means less excitement.

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                          • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                            With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                            Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                            glamcode
                            wrote last edited by
                            #102

                            @taylorlorenz We should market the Fediverse as fun, not only as virtuous. It’s like praising your fruit as „healthy“. True, but I buy where it says „sweet“ 🍇

                            I think the #Forkiverse got this right.

                            And, as always, do write alt-texts, do not harass new users who don’t.

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                            • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                              With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                              Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                              Nikki NoirN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Nikki Noir
                              wrote last edited by
                              #103

                              @taylorlorenz the network effect, for sure 🙂
                              Big fan of your yt channel btw 🙌

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                              • A AndreasEnglert

                                @taylorlorenz I believe the problem is that there is not a lot of information about Mastodon. I just joined yesterday because I wanted to get away from TikTok and just happened to stumble upon this platform by searching for No Tracking Social Media.

                                utopiArteU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                utopiArte
                                wrote last edited by
                                #104

                                @AndreasEnglert
                                The missing information you are talking about is filtered out actively by the platforms you were using for more than a decade at this stage.
                                Post it yourself and you'll see the mafia acting in plain sight restricting your access to your contacts.

                                @taylorlorenz

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                                • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                  With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                  Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                                  🏁⚡Omar Two Tone⚡🏁:verified:
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #105

                                  @taylorlorenz
                                  in a brief explanation: It's a matter of breaking the habits by themselves...

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                                  • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                    With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                    Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                                    Sven222S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Sven222
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #106
                                    @taylorlorenz Maybe telling the people that we have the fediverse with all it's possibilities and that it is more then Mastodon? That it is a real network and not an app?
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                                    • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                      With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                      Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                                      Janik :linux: :ansible: :bash:
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #107

                                      @taylorlorenz Explain that the Fediverse cannot be bought by some tech bro millionaire. It is ours.

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                                      • Sven222S Sven222
                                        @taylorlorenz Maybe telling the people that we have the fediverse with all it's possibilities and that it is more then Mastodon? That it is a real network and not an app?
                                        ayscA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        aysc
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #108

                                        @sven222 You're responding to a Mastodon instance. Stay out of the conversation.

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                                        • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                          With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                          Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                                          Daniel SwannD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Daniel Swann
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #109

                                          @taylorlorenz this is very chicken/egg, but I think it needs a more heterogenous user base. if you’re into programming or leftish politics, there are many users to engage with. if you’re looking for discourse around a major sport like football/soccer, there’s almost nothing here.

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