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Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

    (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

    https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

    PeterS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @cstross This gives some formal insight into the feeling I have when reading AI extrusion, which is that my eyes slide right off it. It's like eating one of the varieties of apple that having been excessively bred for appearance and not taste, the promise of substance so at odds with reality that my brain revolts.

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

      (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

      https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

      Annelies Kamran, Ph.D.A This user is from outside of this forum
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      Annelies Kamran, Ph.D.
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      @cstross that explains why everything ends up sounding like a middle management wannabe on LinkedIn 🤢

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

        (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

        https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

        Gary McGrawC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @cstross "beigification' is aspect of the recursive pollution problem

        https://berryvilleiml.com/2026/01/10/recursive-pollution-and-model-collapse-are-not-the-same/

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

          (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

          https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

          FOSStasticF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @cstross Well, that explains why every time I tried #AI for improving a text snippet, I was very disappointed.

          It always wants to convince me that I should remove any uncommon sentence structures and replace them with generic ones, which often removes any personality from written text.

          If you ask it to make a small addition to an existing text, it likes to rephrase everything in a more generic way and is unable to add a subtext layer. Honestly, it's just useless for writing in my opinion.

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

            (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

            https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

            maliceM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @cstross Is this article ai?

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

              (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

              https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

              Renke MeuweseM This user is from outside of this forum
              Renke MeuweseM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cstross this is indeed a very neat explanation why the best possible outcome of an LLM is still terrible.

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

                (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

                https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

                Ruud SteltenpoolS This user is from outside of this forum
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                Ruud Steltenpool
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                @cstross As someone who, next to having a little knowledge about LLMs, was once complemented for choice of words by a native-speaking professor I hung around with at a conference for a few days, I am not surprised about this LLM fact. The professor however then was somewhat surprised of his own uttering and continued "but I had a few beers".

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

                  (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

                  https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

                  Nu ModularN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @cstross Sea👨ticks skewed row:bots metrics

                  AI, Captain!

                  #BoycottAI

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

                    (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

                    https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

                    Awk & shaM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @cstross “semantic ablation” is a concise way to describe that feeling of “I just read all the words but I can’t tell what they are trying to convey” that I have gotten after reading certain generated snippets of text.

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                    • maliceM malice

                      @cstross Is this article ai?

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                      @malice

                      Although it's not within xyr academic field, Claudio Nastruzzi has touched upon the subject in at least one opinion piece before.

                      https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2025/05/09/how-the-push-for-quantity-is-unraveling-university-teaching-and-student-culture/

                      @cstross
                      #AIs #LLMs

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                        @malice

                        Although it's not within xyr academic field, Claudio Nastruzzi has touched upon the subject in at least one opinion piece before.

                        https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2025/05/09/how-the-push-for-quantity-is-unraveling-university-teaching-and-student-culture/

                        @cstross
                        #AIs #LLMs

                        maliceM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @JdeBP @cstross At a glance, that article looks like much saner writing than the register one at least

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                        • Klaus FrankA Klaus Frank

                          @cstross

                          Or in other words "Why AI is writing in corporate speech"

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                          @agowa338 @cstross

                          Depends what level of the corporation you''re speaking to. Management and marketing hype is in some ways the opposite, with a heavy use of "signaling" words that serve little informational purpose, rather they are meant to leave an impression. Think "disruptive", or "leverage" used as a verb...

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                          • maliceM malice

                            @JdeBP @cstross At a glance, that article looks like much saner writing than the register one at least

                            Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @malice @JdeBP The Register is a news site: everything has to be flensed and filed down to fit in a standard format and voice. That piece is probably all that's left of an original that was three times the length.

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

                              (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

                              https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

                              AaronS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @cstross there’s worse related things.

                              We come to see anything that the AI can not and does not produce as invalid and thus reading these bullshit, taupe texts shrinks our creative range, our sense of the possible, and our willingness to forge our own path or follow someone else blazing their own.

                              Narrowing the range of semantics to an average is one thing.

                              Strangling our range of ideas is another.

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                                @agowa338 @cstross

                                Depends what level of the corporation you''re speaking to. Management and marketing hype is in some ways the opposite, with a heavy use of "signaling" words that serve little informational purpose, rather they are meant to leave an impression. Think "disruptive", or "leverage" used as a verb...

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                                @pieist @cstross

                                Well but you'll still notice that they're using a bunch of words to say nothing legally binding at all in the end...

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

                                  (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

                                  https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

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                                  @cstross It is impossible to replace the human experience with a machine. The moment by its nature is sancrosanct; it's only in this atmosphere of gaming real estate insanity where life's nature is just another bitcoin to earn where we have lost our way.

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

                                    (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

                                    https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

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                                    @cstross

                                    I can’t help seeing in that elements of 1984 where Orwell describes successive reduction in vocabulary with the intended goal of making rebellious thought impossible

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

                                      (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

                                      https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

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                                      @cstross the new Newspeak

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

                                        (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

                                        https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

                                        Johanna, CanCon varietyJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Johanna, CanCon variety
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                                        @cstross neat article, thanks.

                                        I had a realization a while ago that LLM writing came at me with the same vibe I caught when I was briefly a teacher, and again in the workplace, where I dealt with people who had unacknowledged literacy challenges. Young folks who assembled written work by cribbing from others and rearranging words “by shape” to fulfill the requirements - always managed to convey zero meaningful thought.

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          Why AI writing is so generic, boring, and dangerous: Semantic ablation.

                                          (We can measure semantic ablation through entropy decay. By running a text through successive AI "refinement" loops, the vocabulary diversity (type-token ratio) collapses.)

                                          https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/

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                                          @cstross

                                          Of cause it does. So the result becomes more and more readable for the deliberately uneducated masses. Style? Content? Facts? Who cares?

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